[zawi]

Hi Kpk,

"doing Valsava while doing Frenzel" was the key for me to learn Frenzel.
I didn't succeed with Eric Fattah lectures but with the Valsava trick I
had my first Frenzel eqs after a few weeks training in 4 m empty lung dives.

Hi O'Boy,

I have the same troubles after 25 m. The key to beat the 25 m is
to relax, not to hurry. If your lungs are full of air, and if you can do
5 min statics, then you can stay a full minute at 25 m, and train
Frenzel again and again.

Good luck, zawi