[derelictp]

I agree with laminar and others that we have to spend time with new methods to really figure out what's in it. My earlier post states what works best for me right now and that does not mean that it's the truth in 3months or 2 years...

An other example: It took me 2 years of training to get the FF-equalization to work every dive without failure. Now my equalization is 15-20m better then with the diafragmatic frenzel.

By the way; This morning i did a static without warmup and hyperventilation. I did in in bed before going up. I woke up, waited 10min and relaxed. The contractions came at 2'05''. I did not push it I just wanted to know how much the contractions where delayed after more relaxation.

The time increased a little to 1st contraction obviosly but there where other variables that differed from my earlier attempts at nights, food intake for example...

Tyler is right, in my opinion, when he say that there is a very big difference in peoples times to the fysiological breakpoint. A very big difference is, in my opinion, that what 1 person states is hyperventilation is not hyperventilation in an other persons "world".

For me no hyperventilation is when we don't think about breathing and let the body breath.