[ivan]

hi

Basically I printed the frenzel fattah document a week ago and have been practicing it every day working through the steps. I thought id go and test it yesterday in the ocean to see if I could do it.

Heres the problem I was doing what I thought was the frenzel ie i would try and close the epiglottis and use my tongue to push the air down, I could equalise by doing this but it doesnt feel any different to the valvalsa technique. I would try one technique then the other to check if I was cheating but I can't tell the difference.

So how do you know if you are doing the frenzel ?

Is the frenzel meant to feel different to the valvalsa technique ?

Does the frezel allow you to dive say x amount of metres further than the valvalsa ?

Also to do the frezel you have to have air in the mouth right, so when you dive using the frenzel do you start the dive with a mouthfill then when that runs out a certain depth do you just keep filling the mouth with air all the way to the bottom.

sorry for all the questions im just trying to work it out

cheers