[ivan]

hi

Thanks for the help guys

A couple more questions, does doing the frenzel have a noticable different feeling in effort compared to the valvalsa ?

Also is it possible to use the valvalsa to say 15m behind your max equalising depth then do a mouthfill close the epiglottis and then use the frenzel for the last part of the dive ?

If the above works to me this would be better because I cant relax properly doing the frenzel becasue my mind is concentrating very hard to do all the muscle movements correctly, compared to the valvalsa where it is so relaxing and natural to just dive.

Has anyone out there tried using valvalsa then doing a mouthfill at the end of the dive ?

cheers