The 5 point is for use only at very close range in holes where the spear would normaly go straight through the fish and hit the rock behind, it is suprisingly accurate even at the full range of the gun but it isnt very fast through the water, if you shoot it at an angle in front of you, you can see the thing travel through the water so it only really has an effective range of about 1.5m max I guess on that gun but that was the general idea anyway

Its only really for Bass or the occasional Pollack and flatfish in the open if its in my hand at the time

Sarge,me too but they are our guns not just mine so they are a comprimise. You know its a subject that has raised many heated word but I'm still supprised why mid handle guns aren't more popular in the UK especially, so far everybody who has tried them has loved them.