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Originally Posted by Bill McIntyre
BTW, even the F-4s that I was flying before I retired in 1980 had zero-zero seats, but I'm happy to say that I never tried one out.
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Yes, but the ACES II was leaps and bounds better. There are a lot of horror stories about the Martin Baker. Mis-fires, partial ejections.... Some bad ones about maint. guys short cutting the T.O.'s and setting the seat off by mistake, while sitting upside down in the seat with their head under the front panel.
I just meant the seats since the F-4 hare so much better. And the F-4's seat was a great seat in it's day and not that long ago really.