[Marwan]

i wouldnt say the HF2 is a complex beginner gun, i can see it easily used as a first gun, though you may not fully appreciate some of its attributes if you havent used anything else before...
the gun i use the most is still an excalibur 2000 carbonium 100cm.,,,its a great gun, but i can see the HF2 taking its spot in the newar future....the muzzle is much nicer, the barrel very cool and the handle more comfy, the trigger more reliable...