JBL woody

[hitjohn]

Originally Posted by hcknudsen

cool modifications you´ve made......do you like the trigger mech or is it not the original? some say it´s hard, I´ve read this i other forums as well.

hc

i think the trigger has the potential to get hard to deal with if you overload the sear and also if you dont rinse after diving. i have had this gun with 3 bands 9/16th's for years without a problem. still smooth as new. easy to insert the shaft and it locks good, Now i use two 5/8ths bands. i have never taken this trigger apart , out of the handle yet. supposedly the magnum series jbl's have an X trigger meaning higher strength but i have not looked for one yet. for what i use it for it seems to be ok but i would not load up on short and fat bands for that oem jbl trigger.

as for biller guns, i have one of those too, ( i live on a limited budget: ) i like everything about it except the trigger is hard out of the box and the line release is just "there" below the handle. the line from the gun forms this triangle that gets in the way sometimes. the stock of the gun is also thinner. for a wood gun i dont know how good that is when traveling or banging around on rocks.

i did away with the whole slide ring and closed muzzle setup because i wanted something easier to load, fewer moving parts and wanted to use these two 48" freeshafts i had from ray odor.

my friends are all getting bigger guns for our trip in may and i wanted something too but no money for a new gun. the total cost for this upgrade was about 120.00 + whatever time i had to work on it.

the jbl's are a stout gun but for freediving they are a bit heavy and slow moving. but hey, what a price though right? : )

john

[hcknudsen]

modifying is twice the fun, actually wanted to build a gun, but the trigger mech´s are steep and prober hardwood is not to easy to find either, everything in Norway is expensive.

hc

[hitjohn]

Originally Posted by hcknudsen

modifying is twice the fun, actually wanted to build a gun, but the trigger mech´s are steep and prober hardwood is not to easy to find either, everything in Norway is expensive.

hc

so tell me, is it like in denmark where the taxes kill people? someone tole me once that the taxes for things especially when imported into denmark were so incredibly high.

my wife's family is from slovakia and my brother in law is a truck driver, he occasionally drives to norway and denmark but because i cannot speak to him in slovak i have not really had a chance to learn about thosep laces from him.

john

[hcknudsen]

It isn´t as bad as it sounds, the livingstandard is fairly high and doktors, hospitals, schools and stuff like that is free in Denmark, since Denmark is within the EU the prices on stuff i ok, Norway is more expensive and some of the things mentioned above cost money, but on the other hand, people have a better income, I´m actually Danish, but have lived in Norway for the last 4 years, the sea and certain parts of the nature is better here than in Denmark.
where are you from?

hc

[hitjohn]

Originally Posted by hcknudsen

It isn´t as bad as it sounds, the livingstandard is fairly high and doktors, hospitals, schools and stuff like that is free in Denmark, since Denmark is within the EU the prices on stuff i ok, Norway is more expensive and some of the things mentioned above cost money, but on the other hand, people have a better income, I´m actually Danish, but have lived in Norway for the last 4 years, the sea and certain parts of the nature is better here than in Denmark.
where are you from?

hc

hi hc,

i was originally born in san francisco and now live just south of there in redwood city. not as much nature here as compared to your place i bet: )

i go to slovakia to see my wife's family once every couple of years and i really like the outdoors there. we pickmushrooms, go trout fishing and hike. i wish we had more of that where i live.

how is the water there? is it icy cold? what kind of fish do you all spear there? i bet your water is a lot colder than ours.

john

[hcknudsen]

Hi John, the water here is 5C degrees at the moment, so it´s pretty cold, a good wetsuit is a must we mainly get cod and pollok here in the neighborhood, collect scallops and flaunders but there is quite a lot of different fish, scary as well, like the wolffish.
The norwegian answer to deeperblue is Frivannsliv.no - Hovedside a good site, not all that much info in english, but definetly worth a browse, they´re hosting a meet in mai (I think) at a very popular place called fosnstraumen, where the fish are plenty, there are people coming from the other scandinavian countries as well, so looking very much forward to that.
The Norwegian nature is probably a lot like Alaska or Canada.

What´s it like in Redwood then? does not sound very oceanlike

HC

[hitjohn]

Hi HC,

Sounds like you folks probably get nice clear but cold waters then. how thick of wetsuits do you use there?

Redwood City is about 1.5 hhours from Carmel and Monterey where I like to dive. If one place has bad visibility usually i just drive to the next and its the opposite. There are people who dive near to redwood city in Half Moon bay and Pacifica (about 30 minutes drive) but i am not one of them. Sometimes we go north for abalone and fish as well but I do most of my diving south of Redwood city.

the ocean is not far but i have not explored much close to home.

this summer i am going to santa cruz island off the coast of santa barbara which i am looking forward to. we will camp and bring our kayaks for a weekend.

i dont dive as much as i used to these days with work and some other projects.

thanks for the link, i am going to check it out now!

john

[hcknudsen]

Can´t brag to much about the visibility here where I live, it´s often 8-10m, it´s better further up north.
I use a omer mimetic 6,5mm open cell, this is alright for winter, but I still use my 5mm 5finger gloves, and that is pretty cold.
My parents just bought a house on the island of Madeira, Portugal, so we are all going to spend a few weeks there this summer, hope it´ll be cool, get some mixed impressions surfing the net, but all in all it should be a good place to shoot fish with camera or speargun.
just ordered a canon compactcamera and a waterproof housing, hopefully get it on monday, feels like christmas

HC

[Polystigma]

I made some modifications to my JBL Sawed off woody as well.
Mods made the gun feel better in the water. But the trigger mech sucks. The stock is made out of teak and the gun is now open muzzle. In addition I shaved off the slide ring stop on the shaft and drilled a line hole in it too.

[hitjohn]

Originally Posted by Polystigma

I made some modifications to my JBL Sawed off woody as well.
Mods made the gun feel better in the water. But the trigger mech sucks. The stock is made out of teak and the gun is now open muzzle. In addition I shaved off the slide ring stop on the shaft and drilled a line hole in it too.

that is an excellent setup. i like seeing people get creative with what they have. now i am wishing for the setup you have. it looks really clean and simple. are those 9/16 or 5/8ths bands?

take care!

john

[hitjohn]

Originally Posted by Polystigma

I made some modifications to my JBL Sawed off woody as well.
Mods made the gun feel better in the water. But the trigger mech sucks. The stock is made out of teak and the gun is now open muzzle. In addition I shaved off the slide ring stop on the shaft and drilled a line hole in it too.

oh yeah, can you tell me what problems you have run into with the stock trigger?

[Polystigma]

The bands are 9/16'' by 20''. The JBL trigger mechanism to say the least is a piece of crap. It takes so much pressure to fire! And when you do that the gun goes off aim and you miss shots more often. I do not use this gun too often. I mainly use my Riffe Euro. But with these mods the JBL is much more accurate than it was stock. Ditching the bulky slide ring was definitely a big improvement.

Just so you know I did not build that particular stock. I purchased it from Neptonicsystems.com. I did however make a stock on my own. But when I went to put in the muzzle reinforcement. The stock split! And I had to toss it. So I purchased a stock from Neptonic. They build these conversion stocks for JBL and AB Biller guns.

Here are some pictures of the stock I made, before I split it.

[hcknudsen]

looks good, are there no other fairpriced triggermech parts that can be switched to?

hc

[hitjohn]

Originally Posted by Polystigma

The bands are 9/16'' by 20''. The JBL trigger mechanism to say the least is a piece of crap. It takes so much pressure to fire! And when you do that the gun goes off aim and you miss shots more often. I do not use this gun too often. I mainly use my Riffe Euro. But with these mods the JBL is much more accurate than it was stock. Ditching the bulky slide ring was definitely a big improvement.

Just so you know I did not build that particular stock. I purchased it from Neptonicsystems.com. I did however make a stock on my own. But when I went to put in the muzzle reinforcement. The stock split! And I had to toss it. So I purchased a stock from Neptonic. They build these conversion stocks for JBL and AB Biller guns.

Here are some pictures of the stock I made, before I split it.

looks like a pretty solid setup. have you tried polishing the parts of the trigger to make the action any easier? maybe a polishing wheel and some rouge would help?

i wonder how long my trigger mechanism will last. i'll definitely let you all know when it goes south: )

john

[Polystigma]

I have not touched the trigger mech. However, I may consult someone that knows more about it. And have them give me some instructions on what I can do to improve it.
I do remember from a while back someone recommended taking out the sear. And cleaning up the rugged edges with some fine grit sand paper. Supposed to make trigger action smoother. But I do not see how it would reduce the trigger pull force?