less air, longer hold???? can this be right

[tbgsub]

that sounds nice, I like the "nice place" walking, now you just need a nice person to do it with and you wont look so wierd apnea walking by yourself. LOL!!!

actually it sounds like a good work out, I am going to try that more often. thanks JONTA!

(crossing thread/Forum subjects from the "David Blain again?" thread); Maby David Blains next big trick should be walking 2 miles on a single oxygen breath hold!!! thus claiming to easily beat the world record for apnea walking backward and blindfolded! I just want to see him pass out without some professional apnea pro, or body guard to rescue him from colliding with old Terra Firma like a guy who clearly doesnt quite understand Physiologic science very well. "When a science is mis understood, you can usually rely on some branch of physics to harshly and naturally correct any mis understandings." "sometimes it takes idiots out of the gene pool, and sometimes they Evolve." TBGSUB

sorry I was jumping threads but it seemed appropriate to link them.

later!

TBGSUB.

[Jonta]

nice pace not place. My enlish it not good but i think pace =speed walking speed.
So by saying nice pace i mean at a comfortabel speed. I guess i have to improve at enlish but im just 15 years old and i only speak enlish at school. I did 2:15 yesturday

[tbgsub]

Originally Posted by Jonta

nice pace not place. My enlish it not good but i think pace =speed walking speed.
So by saying nice pace i mean at a comfortabel speed. I guess i have to improve at enlish but im just 15 years old and i only speak enlish at school. I did 2:15 yesturday

HA HA HA! ok sorry,

Maby I misread your post as well, good ruck on your engrish, young JEDI.

keep in mind that your time, whatever it is above ground is going to be different from the underwater, especially at depth, and please be safe with a buddy if you ever practice in a pool. (I think I mean cautious, careful, ect. hate to sound like a dad, because I am not one, but pool apnea especially solitary, has produced many dead people in the world)

Ok that said enjoy the apnea walks, you could also try kissing your boyfriend/girlfriend (your probably thinking EEW YUCK! arent you?) for 2:15 without breathing, that is always nice dynamic practice with a bonus!! LOL!. ok maby I am outta line for saying that but its all in fun right? I bet you break 3 minutes on your first try without even thinking! J/K

good luck to you Jonta, and welcome to a world of silent anticipation for either the world above or another breath of fresh air. you are starting off well with a "nice pace" line of thinking. and dont worry your english is just fine, I am sure it will improve by the time you are 17.

by the way at 15 yo, your dynamic times are really good, keep up the good progress and maby you can beat david blains world record, ooh wait he never set one in his life did he?, guess he is discounted, mabe he should try your apnea walking program.

take it easy, and best of luck in your endeavors.

TBGSUB.

[tuffstuff]

its probably due to the fact that not being totally inflated is more comfortable.Than being totally full of air.

[alexrom1207]

Yeah Jonta...both your english and your statics are absolutely terrible. I'm sure that most people on this site when they were 15 spoke much better swedish than you do english and also could apnea walk for 5min or more. LOL I wish I started when I was as young as you are...by the time your 20 you'll probably have amazing statistics and you'll speak English better than most Americans. LOL

[tbgsub]

I'll second the comfort part,
and tell JONTA, I wish I had started as young as you, I'm actuallyu jealous, best of luck, and be safe.

TBGSUB.

[Jonta]

Originally Posted by alexrom1207

Yeah Jonta...both your english and your statics are absolutely terrible. I'm sure that most people on this site when they were 15 spoke much better swedish than you do english and also could apnea walk for 5min or more. LOL I wish I started when I was as young as you are...by the time your 20 you'll probably have amazing statistics and you'll speak English better than most Americans. LOL

The times in this tread isent statics they are walking apnea times my static pb is 4`00min.

[alexrom1207]

lol 4 min is my goal for this season...and I'll be 24 when I get there. By the way I hope that my sarcasm in that previous post breached the language barrier and you understood that I was joking.

[tbgsub]

sometimes I read my previous posts and wonder If I am over the top with my comments as well, Prolly sound like I am full of hot air, but actually it is CO2 that I am verbally exhaling! LOL!!

TBGSUB

[okamotoa]

hey guys lots a great advice so il ask here but already started a thread but nobody replied and almost 150 views....

so im 18 in decent shape i run 5:30 mile times running between 1-8 miles 3-5 times a week(anything over 2 miles i run at 6:00 pace) my old pr or pb which ever u like is around 2:30(dont remember) last season. and this year i started doing dry warm ups so im in shape but i get contractions so bad right on the 1:00 mark every time they start i look and i had just hit 1 min.... i managed 1:30 2 day but still a long ways from my past and i was layin down i took my rest and tried again i know i was almost there but i blacked out layin down....so that was it for to day an got on here to look up advice and found this...

i do know heart rate and metabolism play a part in this and i also know mine r both really high...

[alexrom1207]

okamota heatrate and metabolism do play a part but you can adjust them. Look up some meditation stuff on youtube (yoga meditation/ chakra meditation/ Pranayama breathing) and these will give you some good ways of lowering your heartrate. As for metabolism...that shouldn't really make too much of a difference, as most athletes have faster metabolisms; however, you want to make sure you don't eat before you do any apnea training....this will kill your times and make it much more uncomfortable for you. I'm not sure if it will delay your contractions but maybe it will ????? worth giving it a shot. Let me know what you find by way of results.

[okamotoa]

i did find not to eat a full meal that 1 really hurt but the cramps were worst on an empty stomach wat has worked best is like 1 or 2 gronola bars 2 have something in but not so empty or full it really hurts when contractions start

[tbgsub]

these are statics right?

have you tried the static apnea tables? I recommend Table B, start around 30 seconds and work your way up to a minute or more, you can customize the times to suit your needs.
LINK> Static Apnea Tables by Freediver.co.uk and Freedivers.net :: Graphics by Mozzi
the voice prompt is really nice too.

the idea is to increase your time by 15 seconds each hold to just beyond your normal hold time by the 8th hold. wait 30-60 mins and repeat once or twice. Later you can work in dynamic exercise prior to the static practice to condition yourself under an increased heart rate. but that is something different than just surpassing a static PB of 2:30.

it is hard at first, but if you use your break time wiseley during the static apnea table program, e.g. focus on slow deep breathing, and concentrate on staying calm, and watching your time limit till hold you may easily surpass your current PB with a little practice.

I wouldnt push your self to black out too much either, try to avoid samba (fuzzy stars in your vision, and light headedness), and avoid blackout.

if you avoid blackout, you will be training your body to cope with higher levels of CO2 a little at a time, and your mind will relearn new limits.

if you push to black out is is sort of like resetting your Oxygen urgency clock to 0, at least that is what it feels like.

as for food, a medium snack, or a light meal, not to full, but personally, I go spearfishing on almost empty, maby one P-nut butter and honey sandwich in the morning, then spearfishing for 5 hours!! and only water during the day. usually after the first 1.5 hours my stomach settels and diving gets good, and my apnea times get better.

for statics try to eat a large dinner the day before, say Pasta and high carbs, then only water in the morning, avoid coffee and caffeinated beverages ect, and go for PB in the late mornings, after your stomach has processed all the food, but make sure to feed yourself well afterwards. Most importantly stay hydrated, and focus on complete exhalation to reduce your residual volume, and increase your vital capacity directly. If you use a lung expander you will see almost immediately, that you are most likely breathing with your chest, and not your diaphram, a lung expander will work the diaphram and with repeditive use you will be breathing correctly and deeply enough to surpass your PB.

good luck, and be safe.
TBGSUB.

[okamotoa]

wow ok il give that a try once my ankle heals i broke it last week and as for the food thing my cabin is on the lake and i can swim back acros in bout 15 min so food and water are never a prob.

[Jonta]

Originally Posted by alexrom1207

lol 4 min is my goal for this season...and I'll be 24 when I get there. By the way I hope that my sarcasm in that previous post breached the language barrier and you understood that I was joking.

of courese i did understand ^^ anyting else whould had been really stupid