how I can big result in short time?....

[Val111]

I for a long time am amateur apnoie. Static result 2.45.
And how during short terms to achieve more big results (about 5 minutes in a statics).

[ILDiver]

Take a freediving course. They show you how to put everything in proper order and it really shows you massive gains in a short time. Otherwise, you will struggle longer trying to figure out just the basics. What your asking for is basically what a lot of us paid to learn in a course.

[Val111]

I have no any course in my location. And I think that I am no biginer apnea.
Already have some results but want more. But it's amauter results.
I was found many course for training in net.
Some things that stoped me: blackout.

[Alpi]

Do apnea walks

That work´s good for me

[ILDiver]

I am not saying your a beginner. I had to travel 20 hours by car for a course. Begginer or not, a course will organize the stuff you know and give you new tools to make great leaps. I am sure others are like me though, giving away what I paid to learn does not seem fair. Also the safety taught in a course is huge!

I know there are a lot of courses in Europe, I just don't know of them or locations in relation to where you are. I will say, your situation seems pretty common here on DeeperBlue. I am in a similar situation as well, with no buddy. And Blackout will still be an issue after a course. So a local dive buddy is key. (I don't have a local dive buddy, makes it tough to progress)

[trux]

Well, the problem here i Europe is that there are rather big differences among individual countries in terms of the strength of local economies and currencies. Hence while some European citizens have long holidays and can do bargain trips to other lands, others although doing identical work may be rather locked up in their country because of the prohibitive cost, and often also have shorter available holidays. So from this point of view, it may be really impossible for Val111 to attend a course in the Mediterranean, in the EU, or in Dahab, although for most EU citizens those are quite close and cheap destinations.

Another solution is contacting other freedivers in the neighborhood and sharing the experience with them. Some of them can be found here on DB, on the Member Map of APNEA.cz (Ukraine @ APNEA.cz), or on diverse Ukrainian freediving or spearfishing websites (several of them can be found here: Ukraine @ APNEA.cz

Then, of course, there are plenty of threads targeting the exactly same question here on DB. Newcomers do create similar new threads asking how to improve, practically every day. So all you need to do is going through the answers and learning from them. And reading through the other achieved threads about training techniques is a good idea, too. Also, reading the sticky beginners thread is definitely worth of it, even if you already have some experience.

Otherwise, the patience and persistence both in training and in gathering information, are the best recipes. A miraculous technique that will help you effortlessly doubling your performance, is not always available

[cdavis]

Hi Val, welcome to DB. Lots of info here for you.

Ah, big results in a short time, the magic technique or piece of gear. They are out there. I've found several over the years the vastly improved my diving, sometimes almost overnite. Trouble is, they are different for every diver, depends on where you are in the game and where the gaps in your particular skill set are. A super technique can actually get you in enough trouble to need your buddy if practiced to the exclusion of your overall progress.

My advice: Get good using the search function. Read every thread on subjects you're are interested in. Go out and experiment(carefully) with what you've learned. Come back and read the best threads again(make a folder of the good ones). Its amazing what you miss on the first read. Go out and experiment some more (carefully). Incorporate what works into your diving. I've been doing this for years and found it improves my diving immensely. NOTE: do it yourself off the internet is not near as good as professional instruction, nor as safe. Some stuff that gets posted is flat wrong and others are useful for real experts only, divers way beyond my (or your) ability.

Oh yeah, take a good course as soon as you can. It will shorten your learning curve more than anything else and nothing else gets the safety message across as well.

Good luck with it

Connor

[Val111]

Originally Posted by Alpi

Do apnea walks

That work´s good for me

Pls say what training at walking you do?
I as well do it:
breath - three steps, delay three steps, exhalation six.
Sometimes to increase proportionally by a step or two.

[Val111]

Originally Posted by ILDiver

I am not saying your a beginner. I had to travel 20 hours by car for a course. Begginer or not, a course will organize the stuff you know and give you new tools to make great leaps. I am sure others are like me though, giving away what I paid to learn does not seem fair. Also the safety taught in a course is huge!

I know there are a lot of courses in Europe, I just don't know of them or locations in relation to where you are. I will say, your situation seems pretty common here on DeeperBlue. I am in a similar situation as well, with no buddy. And Blackout will still be an issue after a course. So a local dive buddy is key. (I don't have a local dive buddy, makes it tough to progress)

Thanks a lot. But practical said and safety (partner for insurance
) for me is now more important than theories.
I already have some techniques, simply I try them to make the detailed analysis and to adapt for myself. Thanks again.

[Val111]

Originally Posted by trux

Well, the problem here i Europe is that there are rather big differences among individual countries in terms of the strength of local economies and currencies. Hence while some European citizens have long holidays and can do bargain trips to other lands, others although doing identical work may be rather locked up in their country because of the prohibitive cost, and often also have shorter available holidays. So from this point of view, it may be really impossible for Val111 to attend a course in the Mediterranean, in the EU, or in Dahab, although for most EU citizens those are quite close and cheap destinations.

Completely agree with you. But trips to Egypt or Turkey are possible.
I was already in July Sharm-El-Shaikh (diving and amateur freediving).
Maybe will be again in November but most likely March - April 2009.
And training I want to begin already now.

Originally Posted by trux

Another solution is contacting other freedivers in the neighborhood and sharing the experience with them. Some of them can be found here on DB, on the Member Map of APNEA.cz (Ukraine @ APNEA.cz), or on diverse Ukrainian freediving or spearfishing websites (several of them can be found here: Ukraine @ APNEA.cz

Then, of course, there are plenty of threads targeting the exactly same question here on DB. Newcomers do create similar new threads asking how to improve, practically every day. So all you need to do is going through the answers and learning from them. And reading through the other achieved threads about training techniques is a good idea, too. Also, reading the sticky beginners thread is definitely worth of it, even if you already have some experience.

Otherwise, the patience and persistence both in training and in gathering information, are the best recipes. A miraculous technique that will help you effortlessly doubling your performance, is not always available

Thanks a lot. I found in this map out neghbours from Kharkov.
I try to connected with they.

[trux]

Originally Posted by Val111

I was already in July Sharm-El-Shaikh (diving and amateur freediving). Maybe will be again in November but most likely March - April 2009. And training I want to begin already now.

If you go there, choose better Dahab - there are several freediving bases and you will certainly improve noticeably under their supervision.

[Alpi]

Originally Posted by Val111

Pls say what training at walking you do?
I as well do it:
breath - three steps, delay three steps, exhalation six.
Sometimes to increase proportionally by a step or two.

Search a field -- because if you get a BO on the street

And then i do like the O2 Tables
30sec breathholding while walking -- 1min rest and breathing next
40sec breathholding while walking -- 1min rest and breathing etc.
and last rep. max.

or like Herbert Nitsch: i read somewhere, he is jogging an hold his breath

[jordan 123]

a great site is freediving explained check it out has helped me dynamic apnea in a pool is great.

[trux]

Be aware of the risks of dry apnea training though. If pushing to the limits, which is necessary if you want rapid results, there is a high probability of blacking out or losing motor control, which can have serious consequences if you fall. Several DB members reported such accidents in the past. You better train on soft ground (sand, grass) and not on concrete or in proximity of hard obstacles.

[Val111]

Originally Posted by Alpi

Search a field -- because if you get a BO on the street

And then i do like the O2 Tables
30sec breathholding while walking -- 1min rest and breathing next
40sec breathholding while walking -- 1min rest and breathing etc.
and last rep. max.

When I trying I always select streets for walking or park
Thanks for training example