Pulling in a fish after a poor / long shot.

[azapa]

Originally Posted by Pav

REELS.

I do have the reel for the Omer XXV, but removed it as I felt it would add to bulk and reduce the tracking speed. Yesterday I tried with the reel, and felt it did not effect my hunting (although no fish in the bay ;>) ! ).

How would you use the reel? I know you can set the drag, but at what stage would you use the reel. Poor gut shots? / 10lb + ? The tempting thing is to get that fish as quickly as possible and giving it line may be difficult in my mind, although understand the reason.

Any tips on how to make best use of the reel if I leave it on.

the omer reels have a little line clamp thing to one side, that works very well. load the gun, tighten the line and force it into the clamp thingy (in the same direction as the shooting line). You can then leave the reel on a firm but medium tension for the swims up. The firing jolt removes the trapped line from the clamp thingy.

not too easy to understand?? i can post a picture if you are lost.

[spaghetti]

Originally Posted by azapa

the omer reels have a little line clamp thing to one side, that works very well. load the gun, tighten the line and force it into the clamp thingy (in the same direction as the shooting line). You can then leave the reel on a firm but medium tension for the swims up. The firing jolt removes the trapped line from the clamp thingy.

not too easy to understand?? i can post a picture if you are lost.

that's right. That clamp on the Omer Match reel is useful to keep the line in tension even when the friction is open or semi-open. I was about to tell Pav the same (I was just lacking the english word "clamp": in italian it's "strozzascotta" or "strozzasagola", that'd be not easy to understand...he he)

[Pav]

a photo would be useful. ,
I'm converted to the reel ;>) ! (having removed it last year!!).

We will see how it goes this year. Thanks

[spaghetti]

The clamp we're talking about is that sort of green sharfin on top (in the reality it's all black, not green and orange as in the picture, but anyway you can't miss recognizing that sort of sharkfin on top).
Just pass the line through the clamp on it's way to the line release (or, better, you can simply clamp the line in the clamp, without using the line release). It's easier to do than to explain.



PS: I remember when you took off the reel ;-)

[azapa]

ok, pix:
1. How i use the clip, hope it;s right!
2. How i route the open muzzle, the head was made closed muzzle so I adapted, produces great results
3. How the factory routes open muzzle (i have had tangles on firing with this style)
4. The factory line separator that seems to be needed for 3.

[blaiz]

Did you modify that gun yourself? Ive been thinking of turning my 75cm JB esclapez into an open muzzle and was wondering if I could just modify the existing closed muzzle.

[spaghetti]

I did the same mod on the muzzle of my Master Comp, by myself, with a carpet cutter, one night that I was completely drunk of cheap red wine. Hence I can say it's quite an easy mod to do yourself...

[azapa]

yes, I guess you could say I modified it the pin is a copper nail heated and inserted, the blob a brass screw covered with epoxy. 4 months use and no regrets.

[Pav]

It would be hillarious if Coo Ca Choo would actually be a species of fish......in my imagination it is.....and a big one

I heard today Big Canarian Rays are refered to by the locals as Choo choos! Basically due to them being like trains! , and difficult to stop when shore fishing.

Maybe related to the Coo ca choo?

[Mr. X]

Originally Posted by azapa

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4. The factory line separator that seems to be needed for 3.

Thanks for posting pics Azapa. Is the "line separator" that fin on the side? My Omer XXV doesn't have one of those but it might have been handy the first few times I loaded as the spearline kept getting in the way of the notches - seems better now.

BTW harking back to my original response. I have now shot some fish wish my gun and the spear went through the biggest, a mullet, and the barb remained fully closed (or perhaps opened but then closed again) . Fortunately the spear was well through & I think I'd hit the fish's spine as it did not put up the usual fight. I did think back to this thread as I moved in, grabbed the far end of the spear and manually open the barb.

[azapa]

yes it is a sort of fin on the side. i have no idea if I'm using it the way it was intended though. I don't like to use it too much and rarely do. Normally when my hands are too cold to load decently, or when using the 3. version open muzzle wrap. I should probably be sipping a glass of Cabernet in front of a raging fire by then anyways...

[Pav]

This thread has been great for me! Thanks to all involved. This weekend landed a fish (Mullet) that I hit in the side of the cheek, and which passed out of its mouth, leaving only 1 impact hole! Previously I would have been sure to have lost it. Must have been about the worse hit I have ever had. Let it have the line and finned after it until it droped so I could grab fish. Great advice to all to leave line and spear alone!

[Old Man Dave]

Well done Pav. I have hit one or two fish like that. Even a couple of bass shot through the mouth and out the gills leaving no external marks at all.

At the moment would just settle for being able to see the fish. We still have crap vis.

Dave

[deeperthanblu]

Shot placement is the key to landing fish.

Either way, once the fish is on the line, it will tend to head for the bottom, then wrap in the kelp.

Best bet is to go after them, because, once wrapped, tension on your end of the line makes no difference.