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cressi gara 3000 ld or OMER millenium

People, I need some advice. For the past ten years I've been using my Scubapro Jetfins for everything. From SCUBA to spearfishing. Now that I've notice that people with freediving fins have some advantages when spearfishing, I want some new fins. I have two options for my budget: The Cressi gara 3000 fins (LD or HF) or the OMER millenium fins. I know that you can change the omer fin blade and the Cressi fins are on e full piece, which could be a con or a pro. Please advice me!

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Re: cressi gara 3000 ld or OMER millenium

They're both decent fins, but the advantage goes to OMER because someday you will want to upgrade the blades.
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Re: cressi gara 3000 ld or OMER millenium

I'd suggest trying the footpockets. At that level it's a close choice - though Erik is right about the upgrade options.
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Re: cressi gara 3000 ld or OMER millenium

I'd say: go for those that fit best for Your foot and Your legs (stiffness) Being able to change a blade will only be worth it if the foot pocket actually fits You well.
If You have the opportunity, try each and every one of them on - from buddies or in a shop. Then decide. - I'd like to be able to give You a simpler answer for Your ideal fin, but I think You'll have to mull this over... There are several threads on this topic, so if You do a search You'll find more opinions on this.

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Re: cressi gara 3000 ld or OMER millenium

Maybe this could be somewhat helpful to you...

1. c4 Mustang 80 apnea
2. c4 Falcon 30
3. Cressi GARA 2000 HF
4. Cressi GARA 3000
5. Cressi
GARA 3000 LD
6. OMER Millenium ICE
7. OMER Millenium black neu
8. OMER Millenium Runner
9. Beuchat Mundial Sport
10.Beuchat Mundial Competition

shoe size
1. 41/42 2. 42/44 3. 42/43 4. 42/43 5. 42/43 6. 42/44 7. 42/44 8. 42/44 9. 41/42 10. 41/42
length overall
in mm 1. 910 2. 900 3. 855 4. 890 5. 890 6. 880 7. 875 8. 875 9. 880 10. 890
length of blade
in mm 1. 620 2. 620 3. 580 4. 615 5. 615 6. 590 7. 580 8. 580 9. 600 10. 600
width
in mm 1. 190 2. 190 3. 216 4. 212 5. 212 6. 220 7. 218 8. 218 9. 220 10. 220
weight
in kg 1. 1,10 2. 1,05 3. 0,91 4. 0,97 5. 0,97 6. 1,07 7. 1,35 8. 1,27 9. 1,08 10. 1,10
bending with 1kg of weight at the end of blade
1. 370 2. 230 3. 140 4. 185 5. 230 6. 190 7. 140 8. 170 9. 190 10. 180
thickness at the end of blade
in mm 1. 0,8 2. 0,8 3. 3/2 4. 2,6 5. 2,6 6. 2,4 7. 2,7 8. 2,5 9. 2,0 10. 2,2
blade exchangeable
1. yes 2. yes 3. no 4. no 5. no 6. yes. 7. yes 8. yes 9. yes 10. yes
color
1. black 2. black 3. black 4. black 5. grey 6. clear 7. black, green 8. black 9. grey 10. black
material of blade
1. Carbon Laminat 2. Carbon Laminat 3. Polypropylen 4. Polypropylen 5. Polypropylen 6. POM seethrough thermoplastic Polymer-Plastic 7. POM thermoplastic Polymer-Plastic 8. POM thermoplastic Polymer-Plastic 9. Polypropylen 10. Polypropylen

I translated this table from German, so please excuse if some materials are not correctly spelled. I think you get the idea though...

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Re: cressi gara 3000 ld or OMER millenium

Actually, I had it set up like a table, meaning in rows and colums, but it turned out like this.

Well, it takes a little more effort but I think you can read the information given.
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Re: cressi gara 3000 ld or OMER millenium

Will you be using these for scuba too? If so I reckon the hf version of the cressis would be better
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Re: cressi gara 3000 ld or OMER millenium

Well, I have my scubapro Jetfins, which are like 20 year old (were from my father) but the work better than any other fin I have ever worn. I use 'em for scuba diving, but many people had told me that for the kind of sports I do, I will need spearfishing fins. I've been Scuba diving since 12, and spearfishing since 16 and theese fins had been my partners.
Usually I spend several hours in the water (4 to 6), because I don't have a boat. Therefore I travel long distances, and get very tired after that. Many local spearos have told me that with the same effort I apply to my scuba fins, I can get double or triple the effect with freediving fins. But my budget is a little limited, because I'm a student and the very best for the price that I've seen are OMER and CRESSI.

Hope this description helps you to advise me!
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Re: cressi gara 3000 ld or OMER millenium

Long distances? I say forget the hf's
I'd say go with the Millenniums then as they are very comfortable over long periods (I dive similar times with them). Also they offer upgrade-ability for future blades and excellent back up provided by Omer
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Re: cressi gara 3000 ld or OMER millenium

I have both. My beef with the OMERS is that the "mouth" of the footpockets is like, well, gaping open.. It leads to too much space around the heel. This seems to be their design, and many complain of loose heels with OMERS.

Having said that, I use my omer milenium runners (black) most weekends when my legs are feeling in shape because they are more powerful than the Cressis IMHO. My heel wobbles around a bit though ......
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Re: cressi gara 3000 ld or OMER millenium

I just got my garas today and will be putting them to the test 2moro after work so will post my "results" after the dive.
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Re: cressi gara 3000 ld or OMER millenium

well scot, I'll be waiting for you rating!
Thanks for anwering to my post people!

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Re: cressi gara 3000 ld or OMER millenium

gara 2000 HF are ver good...but for long distance swimming to a dive spot it's a bit hard.
foot pocket fits best for me.
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Re: cressi gara 3000 ld or OMER millenium

10/10 for the gara 3000. loverly fin. very well made and a nice fit, they are a slimmer pocket though but still very comftable.

I covered a fair amount of ground with them and they werent hard on the legs. will give them a good going this weekend but i put my money on the gara's
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Re: cressi gara 3000 ld or OMER millenium

I love my Garas too, however once you get into a fiberglass or carbon fin, you realise how superior they are. Something to consider for the future.
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