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In order for such a monster fish to count as a record:

C. GENERAL RULES
1. Divers must be freediving when they spear and land their catch. The use of artificial breathing devices is not allowed at any time (e.g., to retrieve the speared fish).
2. Divers must remain in the water and unassisted until the fish is subdued.
3. Divers must retain contact with their float and/or line at all times. If contact is lost, they must re-establish contact while remaining in the water. No assistance may be provided, except that other divers or persons out of the water may inform the diver as to the location of the fish or floats. The diver may hold onto their floats, but may not rest upon them.
4. While potentially dangerous, the use of bait or lures is allowed, provided that with the use of bait, divers make and distribute it themselves, unassisted (bait used for this purpose must be captured by the diver using it), or in the case of lures, they carry them themselves.
5. Fish must be free-swimming, unrestricted by nets, traps, fishing lines or other devices.
6. Fish must not be in an artificial environment such as penned-in bays, or in close proximity to fish nets or fish rearing pens.
7. The catch must follow all laws and regulations governing the species or the waters in which the fish was caught.
8. Another diver may provide a second or additional unloaded gun to the spearfisher, provided they do not assist the diver in any way to subdue their catch.
9. Fish mutilated by anything other than the spearfishing equipment of the applicant are not allowed.
10. The use of artificial light sources for night spearfishing is not allowed.

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a fish that big would be a monsterous effort to take. i do not think you should take a shot unless you are very well prepared, best gear and only the best possible gear. a fish that big is to great of an asset to be lost on a bad shot or faulty gear. i can understand the temptation.
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In order for such a monster fish to count as a record:

C. GENERAL RULES
1. Divers must be freediving when they spear and land their catch. The use of artificial breathing devices is not allowed at any time (e.g., to retrieve the speared fish).
2. Divers must remain in the water and unassisted until the fish is subdued.
3. Divers must retain contact with their float and/or line at all times. If contact is lost, they must re-establish contact while remaining in the water. No assistance may be provided, except that other divers or persons out of the water may inform the diver as to the location of the fish or floats. The diver may hold onto their floats, but may not rest upon them.
4. While potentially dangerous, the use of bait or lures is allowed, provided that with the use of bait, divers make and distribute it themselves, unassisted (bait used for this purpose must be captured by the diver using it), or in the case of lures, they carry them themselves.
5. Fish must be free-swimming, unrestricted by nets, traps, fishing lines or other devices.
6. Fish must not be in an artificial environment such as penned-in bays, or in close proximity to fish nets or fish rearing pens.
7. The catch must follow all laws and regulations governing the species or the waters in which the fish was caught.
8. Another diver may provide a second or additional unloaded gun to the spearfisher, provided they do not assist the diver in any way to subdue their catch.
9. Fish mutilated by anything other than the spearfishing equipment of the applicant are not allowed.
10. The use of artificial light sources for night spearfishing is not allowed.

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Yeah ok they are the rules if he is interested in a wr, but if you want the safest and best chance of finding your fish and gear after the shot having a boat with binoculars would be so valuable for finding the floats. Im sure a fish that big will take the floats down for quite some time if not stoned, and if you are in the water scanning the horizon for floats it would be almost impossible to see them, especially in rough weather and the wrong sun glare.

Be careful out there

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Thanks for all that advice guys

I am not too worried about a world record right now but I don't want to hurt a fish that big for the hell of it.

I will get my gear ready and then take a few shots at a dead tuna when we catch one trolling on rod and reel.

That should give me an idea of the power i need to penetrate one of those fish.

I'll try a gill shot too and confirm if it bounces or not.

I could be the pioneer of extreme spearing HEHE!!!!


Or on the other hand my headstone could read:

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Thanks for all that advice guys

I am not too worried about a world record right now but I don't want to hurt a fish that big for the hell of it.

I will get my gear ready and then take a few shots at a dead tuna when we catch one trolling on rod and reel.

That should give me an idea of the power i need to penetrate one of those fish.

I'll try a gill shot too and confirm if it bounces or not.

I could be the pioneer of extreme spearing HEHE!!!!


Or on the other hand my headstone could read:

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DIED ATTMPTING A NEW FREEDIVING RECORD USING A LIVE SLED
(AKA BLUEFIN TUNA)



So you gonna try it????

If don't have an access to Riffe or anyother bluewatergun. You may think to buy TOTEM TUNA gun. May be Fabirizo can help you about float setup.I read from other tuna hunters stories that float bungie is essential. They generally use more than one float or either buggy board.
But in any case do some search and talk to some experts before you try it ok ! ! !
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You make sure you take some pics of those tuna for me

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You bet I am going to try!!!

I might dive infront of a school without a gun to see how close they actually get.

Yesterday there were 2 killer whales chasing the tuna. Now that would scare me

I will get my kit completely ready before I try and shoot 1.
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Yesterday there were 2 killer whales chasing the tuna. Now that would scare me


Oh man ! !! That very cool pic. Did you see it underwater??? Now you have two opponents, sharks + killer whale
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A friend of mine went out tuna fishing yesterday and he said there was another boat out there, with a tuna hokked up right beside the boat, when a killer whale bit the tuna and left only the head. They managed to hoist the head on board to see the damage the killer whales make. THe head weighed over 60 kilos and the whale had eaten the fish in one bite!!!!

Scary stuff eh!!!
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Did you watch the movie about orca taking revange of its child and lover from whale hunters??? Just kidding man ! ! ! Probably you are too small for them, doesn't worth to chase.... I bet on you against tuna+orca+sharks ! ! !

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Holy Cow..........200kg plus BlueFin..........!!!!!!!!!

Some questions to excite me :
Shane, what is the water temp in Celcius of your water ?
What kind of visibility you get there ?
Can a foreigner shoot bluefin tuna ?
Can you sell your catch with out special permit ?

If you airfreight one of those Bluefin you landed to Japan, you can buy all the guns you ever need.

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Hi Iya

The water temp is about 17 - 18 Degrees Celcius
Viz is about 20 meters
In theory you would be in either Spanish water or Moroccan waters so you need the Spanishfishing licence and abide by their catch limits. IE One fish per diver per day. SO if there are 4 ppl in the boat each with a licence, one of them could do the diving and catch a fish for each licence.

No aqualungs allowed.

You can sell the fish. We have a nmber of Japanese boats out here ready to transport the Tuna.

Hope this answers you questions. Please feel free to ask some more.
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Hi Shaca.

Are there any boats that take spearfishers with,
like 'charters'?
Just visited gibraltar month ago, to see the tourist things like the monkeys. Didnt do any diving there though. Just wondering how much it would cost to arrange a spearfishing trip to gibraltar.
Not for blue fins though..

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There are no specialised spearing charters. Most local spearos don't like taking divers they don't know spearing as there have been a few casualties and no one wants to be reposinble.

Also gibraltar is very small and the good spearing spots are limited. Winter is probably the best time.

With regards fishing Bluefin, I am currently studying this matter in detail as I want to make sure I am breaking no laws by diving in the middle of the straits. Also have to abide by Spanish and Moroccan laws depnding on which part of the straits you are fishing.

Costs would be getting here and your stay. If you ever come over again I will be happy to take you.

What sort of level are you?
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I have been spearfishing for about 1,5 years now.
As far as spearfishing i'm not very good at it.
I'm capable freediver with personal best at 32 m, but i dont normally hunt below 20 m.
Thanks for the invitation, but it's likely that i wont come atleast very soon. I'm planning to arrange trip to norway next spring and maybe a trip to england where my brother Pekka lives.
Ofcourse we have our regular christmas trip to sharm el sheikh this coming december.

And if you ever come to Helsinki, feel free to contact me. No reason to go spearfishing here though..

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