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Breaking a minute bottom time...

Hey guys. I've been diving for a little over a year, and up to now, my best time logged on my D3 is 1:05. I know that it's a mix of mental and physical elements that keeps me from getting much past this, and I was wondering if anyone else has run into this same barrier and how you got past it.
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Re: Breaking a minute bottom time...

How deep are you with that time? Are you spearing?
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Re: Breaking a minute bottom time...

99% of the time I'm spearing, but I'm usually doing aspettos more than anything. And most of my diving is between 20-50 feet, but I'm looking to break that in the not too distant future either.
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Re: Breaking a minute bottom time...

In that case you are doing great with those timings. If anything you are doing the best training there is; repetition. Do you want to increase your botom times because you don't get to see the fish or is it another reason? I spear similar depths and usually it is long enough for an aspetto to get to see fish. In the Med, for example, some guys are doing 2 mins+ at 60ft and more to catch Dentex because they take an age to come in on you during aspetto. What is your main quarry?
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Re: Breaking a minute bottom time...

Rockfish mostly, but we do a lot of hole hunting as well. But I'm expanding into the California pelagics such as white seabass and yellowtail(kingfish). The main reason that I want to do it is to be able to have the advantage at depth of being able to take the best shot possible, and increase the depth that I can comfortably hunt at as well. I do wish I could find some warmer water more often, as locally, the water never usually gets warmer than 55 degrees farenheit, but we did a dive just a few weeks ago where it was 48!
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Re: Breaking a minute bottom time...

Don't think of it as a barrier because it is not. With consistent practice and repetition you should notice gradual improvement in your apnea. Relaxing during your breathe up is key!!! If your opportunities to dive are not that frequent and steady in water practice is rare you can download Ivo's (trux) Static Apnea Trainer here:

APNEA.cz - Apnea Training Manager

Of course taking either the PFI or FIT course is also very highly recommended. These classes will show you the technique and importance of a relaxed breathe up.

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Re: Breaking a minute bottom time...

Jim, I think what i need is a nice set of C4's to get me down there quicker!
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Re: Breaking a minute bottom time...

deep relaxation during breathups and minimal effort on the way down.
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Re: Breaking a minute bottom time...

Speak of the devil. My soon-to-be fiancee and I are going to move to Traverse City when I get out of the Army in 2010, and it all started with http://www.michiganfreediving.com. So i guess I owe you a big thanks!
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Re: Breaking a minute bottom time...

Wow! Be sure and contact me any time you get here and we'll go for a dive. Not much spearing here - just carp and suckers are legal and neither is particularly edible. Of course you'll need to adjust from being used to such warm water.
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Re: Breaking a minute bottom time...

Yeah, we don't do warm water where I'm from either. But we're planning a vacation to check it out, and I'll most definitely let you know when we're gonna be there so that we can get in the water together. I'm not so much worried about not being able to spear; I just wanna have the ability to dive, and frankly, your pictures were amazing. I could use some scenery like that!
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Re: Breaking a minute bottom time...

Biggest problem is boats in the summer. East and West bay are officially becoming an Underwater Preserve this spring.
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Re: Breaking a minute bottom time...

Dave,

That is really a decent time for a "working" spearfishing dive, and particularly considering that you are wearing a thick suit and diving in that icy water. Its sure all you need to get white sea bass and yellowtail down here in SoCal.
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Re: Breaking a minute bottom time...

That's good to know, Bill. Is the invitation to come down and go out on the boat still open? Trust me, I'm good for gas and anchor pulling!
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Re: Breaking a minute bottom time...

Sure it is, as long as its a week day. I suppose that if I were not retired I'd just deal with the weekend crowds at the ramp and at the dive spots, but I am, so I don't.

But I have a hard time getting gas buyers and anchor pullers on weekdays.
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