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#1
May 5th, 2005
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I can easily figure out doing dynamic apnea in a swimming pool with nose-clip + goggles...
but when it comes to constant weight, it is another story... what should I do with my goggles ? should I put them on once in the sea, filling them with water directly taken from the sea  ?should I bring physiological serum with myself on the boat ?? 
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#2
May 6th, 2005
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If you're not wearing the so called "fluid goggles", but just normal swimming goggles, I'd suggest that you don't fill them. You will not be able to see almost anything. "fluid goggles" have very powerful corrective lenses that help you see underwater, even if they are full of water (in fact, wearing them dry, you will not see much anything).
Some people use seawater, but if if's not very clean, this can be bad for your eyes. Others use a saline solution, such as is used to store and clean contact lenses. You can find some from virtually any store that sells contact lenses...
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#3
May 7th, 2005
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, shan't I ?Last edited by subaquaticus; May 8th, 2005 at 18:30.
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May 8th, 2005
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yes - unless there is a tube between the goggles and your mouth. By the way regular NaCl 0.9% would do fine. If you wanna save money: mix 1 table spoon (approximately 10g) in 1 litre of drinking water. You'll be fine as well and you can practice filling goggles (
 ) without loosing too much money! I am very much looking forward to doing some constant weight diving here in the lakes of switzerland wearing goggles and paradisia nose clip...just try it! pat
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#5
May 8th, 2005
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How much did you pay for it ? What colour ? I decided to buy one such nose-clip (it costs here 29 €)... The only colour available now in Paris is yellow and I would like a blue one... Such a nose clip will be useful to me already in dynamic apnea (my present nose clip lets a little water in and I hate it...) I also envisage doing constant weight, but up to now I didn't solve the problem of the goggles...
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#6
May 8th, 2005
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Have a look here if you want to dive with goggles http://www.liquivision.ca/fgmain.html
Howerver, I think I read on an other post your current PB is 25m as you are quite new to freediving... am I right? If this is the case I think you are going into complications for not much using goggles. If You have trubbles equalizing at those depths, you might want to practice a bite more the technique or get a low volume mask (minima or sphera) Fluid goggles are usually for verry experienced freedivers who want to win a few more metters to break a record. Just my two cents 
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#7
May 9th, 2005
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Up to now, I was satisfied with my nose-clip for dynamic apnea but it is not perfectly hermetic and I don't like having water in my nose ; I decided to buy the paradisia ; once I have bought this expensive toy (29 €), I shall be tempted to use it in constant weight... it seems interesting to me to be able to do Valsalva without a hand on the nose... I was struck seeing so many people using the paradisia in pool comps, even for static (Guillaume Nery used it without goggles)... I feel a strong nose-clip will improve my comfort in a swimming pool... Last week doing a series of duckdives in a swimming pool (3.50 m deep) occasioned a left ear aching... I had done no Valsalva but my usual BTV (I don't know the abbreviation in English) which is OK pushing from the wall... With a paradisia, I could probably have done some hands-free Valsalvas... Up to now I did vertical diving (sled, CW, FIM) with a mask and I was quite happy with it... although I felt I wasted a little bit of oxygen (my mask was a SEAC Extrem, which is not exactly a "low" volume, but rather a "medium" volume) In fact the main question is not the goggles, but the nose-clip... Last edited by subaquaticus; May 11th, 2005 at 10:38.
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#8
May 9th, 2005
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OK, you can try it for constant weight once you have bought the $160 fluid goggles. But I think lots of people will found that a bite funny. However , I would quite like to try too sometime (for the no volume mask, not so much for the hand free thing)
Why don't you use a mask in the pool, would that not be solving the problem? That's what I do, I don't really like goggles. Either they get water in when going fast or you have to tighten them like hell which hurts... I feel so much better with a mask.....
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#9
May 9th, 2005
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in swimming pools I tried medium volume mask, low volume mask, and googles + nose-clip ; the last is for me the best ; only my nose-clip is not so efficient as before... and I am going to buy a new one... When I train in swimming pools, I both swim and do apnea... Pushing from the wall with a mask is not so good... In pool comps, up to naw I have used a mask in static and goggles + nose-clip in dynamic... I wanted to have a try at using goggles + nose-clip in static comp, but the discomfort occasioned by a little water going into my nostrils prevented me from doing so...
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#10
May 9th, 2005
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I work close to a Decathlon with a lot of different models to be tried... It always took me a long time to find the pair of goggles which suits me... In particular I always buy goggles where you can adjust the distance between the eyes (nowadays most models don't offer this possibility and if this distance is not perfectly adjusted, then it leaks ...)
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#11
May 9th, 2005
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1. with nothing covering my eyes, I will try descending holding the cable... 2. I will try opening my eyes in the water... 3. I will try putting on my - cheap - goggles once in water filling them with sea water ; 4. in case of discomfort due to the high salinity of the water, I will try bringing my own liquid in a tiny bottle, the liquid being softer to my eyes... Up to now, I am unable to tell how important it is to be able to see clearly in the sea for CW...
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#12
May 9th, 2005
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I don't see the point in wearing normal goggles, it will be the same as no goggles unless if you use a salin fluid with them which will be less painfull... Good luck. When do you plan to try all this?
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#13
May 9th, 2005
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I think I am getting my blue paradisia once in Nice (in 2 weeks) directly from the producer (who lives in Villefranche)... One remark about the "pains in the eyes"... 2 years ago, I took my BNSSA where most of the tests are done with no goggles and no nose-clips... (apnea and rescueing)... I began training with goggles and nose-clip in order not to solve all the problems at the same time... 3 weeks before the exam I took off the goggles and it took some sessions for my eyes to adapt to opening in pool's water... I think it is a question of adaptation...
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#14
May 9th, 2005
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hey subaquaticus -
I have a paradisia in blue, you can have mine in exchange for the yellow . In July I will gonna be be in Marseiille at the Coupe des Calanques. See you there? Greetz out of Zurich Switzerland Pat
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#15
May 10th, 2005
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Is it a marine blue ? Why do you prefer yellow ? I have been to Hurghada 2 years ago... and had a pair of yellow rubber fins... I did some snorkeling from the boat... They warned us to be careful of a special fish (in French a "baliste") supposed to be aggressive... They told us that in particular it attacked yellow things... Are you a Schwytzertutsch ? Last edited by subaquaticus; May 10th, 2005 at 11:39.
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