triaxx spare shaft mis order/ can be dangerous

[ayakiawe]

Hi thanks for your continued interest and support but sorry, the original spear shaft that came with the gun went off with a very large barracuda on its maiden voyage when I first got back to Thailand last year.
The sucker was huge and just took the whole thing with him.
It was a close shot and penetrated the body very well but he never stopped after I shot him and just kept on going like nothing happened. After a few secs the line snapped (that’s the line that comes with the gun and its ok strength too).
I didn’t have a reel put on the gun yet unfortunately otherwise I might have had been able to keep the fish and the spear!
Dam he was big!
So later back home I whipped out the replacement spears (I have 4 of them and they look nice…. made by Seatec) and it’s been a problem ever sense.
The guns are in very very good shape and I don’t think they have a problem as Imersion suspected all along.

So for now I am clear now what the problem is I think anyways.
Not 100% but quite certain but I do think now the gun can only use with certain size shafts as I told you before.

I have several well written and in depth e-mails from the manufacture and he has given me the exact specs for this right size of the back end of the spear shaft required.

I think I posted them in a previous post if I am not mistaken?
Now don’t get me wrong I am not an expert but this does seem to be the case.

Today I took my whole production (all spear shafts and guns I have) to a metal worker and we measured exactly each and every spear shaft I have here and sure enough the sizes within Imersion’s his specifications do seem to fit this gun.

I just found out yesterday had a few reserve shafts left over from an old gun I had left here which is an Omer 2000 which I have never really used.
A couple of those shafts are within the require sizes and they seem to load in the cassette well and it snaps closed like it’s suppose to.

I have a great picture in an e-mail from Imersion that shows exactly the measurements in a picture with overlaid measurements needed for my shafts ends but I am not sure how to attach it to this post???

If you can give me an e-mail address I can forward the e-mail to you if you would like to see it?

[ayakiawe]

here is the pic i hope from imersion showing me whats sizes can work with this gun

[Pastor]

The problem is that you are using a bitmap image, you need a jpg or a gif to show on the forum. Anyway we can see it so now worry. The shafts look fine to me, the measurement isn't really that critical (within reason), the rounded bit is supposed to ride up on the sear and jam against the roof of the trigger housing. Let me drink my cup of tea and I'll go and measure the one I have in the same imersion trigger housing

[Pastor]

OK, just measured an Imersion shaft, a Rob Allen shaft and a Cressi shaft. The Imersion was exactly the same as the measurements you have @ 2.4mm and 4.8mm the other 2 were 2.3mm & 2.2mm and 4.8mm. I would seriously look at your trigger mechanism, there wouls seem to be nothing wrong with your shafts dude

[ayakiawe]

ok sorry but I cant agree with you as much as I would like to trust me on that!
dude.....this is what the copmany told me and I think they must know what they are talking about sense they make a whole shJt load of these there at their factory right?....

here is what I measured today at the shop.. some were mine and a friends

the onesw that fit were the ones that the guy told me would... in that close range plus or minus .2 of 2.4

I took all my spear shafts (and a friends) in to a metal shop to be measured and this below chart is the results.

So the first number in mm (I label as "dip") is the part you call for "the part used for the trigger mechanism to hold the shaft"

the second number in mm is the number for the "flat" part and you call "the part that is inserted in the cassette is at the extreme rear and in front of the trigger mechanism groove "


Can the ones I cant use be modified somehow?



spear shafts sizes dip flat

1. Omer single barb 2.2 4.8

2. new Omer single barb 2.1 4.8

3. new Omer single barb 2.1 4.9

4. new Omer single barb 2.2 4.7

5. new Seatec single barb 2.1 4.7

6. new Seatec single barb 2.2 4.7

7. new Seatec double barb 2.0 4.7

8. new Seatec double barb 2.2 4.9

9. Coralign single barb 2.3 4.9

OK hear back your thoughts thanks

[Pastor]

The measurements are fine, there are differences of ~ 0,1/0.2mm that is no problem, trust me. Try them in any other euro gun and they will work. If the difference was 2mm then you might see a problem. The Euro trigger is designed to take up these differences.

Go check out your trigger, very carefully, look for hair line cracks or damaged bits inside

[ayakiawe]

ok I will thanks for the help....
I have no idea how to tak it appart but I will find out... thanks again

[Pastor]

How are we looking with this? Any news?

[ayakiawe]

hi well like I said I have spears (with in the range of what Imersion said will work) that seem to work for with the gun...
I can for sure tell u tomorrow when I GO OUT AGAIN BUT ON LAND anyways....THEY SEEM TO LOAD UP FINE.
But you and I know what happens when things are in a real life spearfishing situation.
I am goig to take a small back up gun just in case. The water isnt clear but I have a free boat ride out so I take it anyways and see how things go.

I dont really want to take apart the gun just yet as I dont know what I am doing first of all and lazy too you might say.
Normally when I work on things they are worse then before I started too!
If this works I will just get new spears that fit and be done with it...
thanks for asking

[Pastor]

Try looking very carefully at the mechanism inside and out using a torch before you take it out. It's far better finding a fault on land with an unloaded gun than in the water with a loaded one and finding you have an expensive dentist bill to go with the cost of a replacement trigger

[Erik]

Originally Posted by jimdoe2you

ayakaiwe,

OK, I will take care of you. First of all I am the Imersion rep for north america and fortunately I have an extra Imersion Essential handle (complete with trigger) I will send you for free. All you need to do is pay for shipping.

I have done business with Jim and he's that cat's ass. That's a good thing by the way!

Kudos Jimbo.