White sharks in Europe?

[Ben Gowland]

Me neither!

However, there is no reason for them to eat you for energetic reasons as we have little fat and are simply not worth eating - so unless you are very fat - you should be OK!

I think I need to go on a diet......

[mundial]

orca are friendlly and expected animels not like the shark
i have found them one of the nices animels in the world
here are some fotos from victoria bay british colombia canada

[island_sands]

Originally Posted by miles

Hiya


HOWEVER, the ORCAS i've encountered ALSO act in a similar way!!!! Watching a 3-5TON animal jumping out of the water RIGHT in front of your boat is extremely unnerving!!!!!!!! Remember, we go 40nm offshore in a 6.5m Semi Rigid inflatable and these cute buggers can be as big as 8m!!!!

Besides, i've seen them hunting penguins on the ice, when they break peices of ice off and then chomping those penguins. Now imagine they figure out what tasty morsels are aboard boats...........................scary though!!!

Oh, and i sure would not like to be the FIRST to be attacked by a ORCA!!!!

Regards
miles

lol Miles! I have been doing lots of documentary watching lately as i was ill in bed for a day and half... they were saying that Orcas are as big as an elephant!! (same weight, as you have already mentioned). wow! when they film them its hard to get a feeling of how large they are.

did you see the Blue Planet series? How the pod of killer whales followed a grey whale and her calf, attacked the calf and all they ate was the lower jaw and tongue!~!! After a six hour hunt and torment... they got it all on really good footage.

I can see the damage they would do to a diver... have you seen the games of tennis they have with baby seals?

[mundial]

not all the orcas are killers !!
most of them eat only fish ' orcas are from the same family of dolfins..

[miles]

Hiya

Mundial, i whole-heartedly agree with you that Orca's are one of the most stunning homeothermics that exist. I'm amazed at the type of behaviour these animals show. I've seen them break off peices of ice, then tilt the broken ice peice, thereby fliping the penguins standed on the broken off ice into the water. I've also seen documentaries on them grabbing seals on the shore!!! They ram themselves up onto a beach, grab a seal/sea lion, then roll back into the water!!!! They're known to feed on Poikilthermics as well as Homeothermics. This encompasses at least five species of seals, the dugong, thirty species of fish, turtles, two species of squid, seven species of seabird, and at least twenty-four species of cetacean, including the massive Blue Whale.

A bit more history on "The Wolves of the Sea". In 1758 they were named Dephinus orca - 'demon dolphin'. In 1860, however, a new genus was created, Orcinus, in recognition of the differences between this species and the smaller dolphins. They're known to attain a maximum weight exceeding 10tons and a maximum length of close to 10meters!! They're also known to live between 25-90years!!!!

Soooooooo, my reasoning is that if they're cunning enough to grab seals on LAND and knock penguins OFF ice, it'll be foolhardy NOT to be scared of them!!!! Especially if you have a big bugger jumping around your boat, 40nm from nearest land!!!

Regarding the issue: Diver vs. Great White vs. Killer whales, i'd rather stick with the DEVIL i know!!!!!

Regards
miles

[Huan]

In the GWS vs Orca argument , It is my belief that both of these animals are to be respected ,however while I would be wary of the Orca, I tend to believe that the brain power alone would make the Orca less of a threat.
That said If an Orca decided that you would make an acceptable substitute for a Xmas mince pie, I believe that you would be finished.
A GWS on the other hand while maybe more intelligent than the average shark still is not as capable of reasoning as the Orca -hence I would be more concerned about the GWS.
I saw a piece of footage where a GWS is actually killed and eaten by orcas. No contest there.

[Murat]

guys, if you fear just send them to my way

[shaneshac]

Yeah Murat, and what are you going to feed them yogurt till they explode

[Memo]

hahahhahhahahahhaa, I hope never see one waiting for a dentex ...

[mundial]

o.k they are "wild" and agressive but i dont agree to put them in the same place with the G.W.shark!!
still isaw them from a zodiac 10-15 m they were friendlly , i asked if i can go down to the water to be near them and the captine says no no no
beacuse i was a turist in canada and we were in a u.s water !?
from the crew i heard that they play with the orcas even swim near them
sometimes the orcas like to show-of and jamp , but they never attack nobady , however you cant take youre dog with you if you go were there are some orcas!!!!!!!!!!!
i also bringing a famos story about LUNA the little orca from vancuover bay
read and tell me if you can put them in the same place with G.W -shark
heres the link
http://www.orcanetwork.org/news/luna.html

[miles]

Hiya Mundial

After all thats been said, it'd be great fun to have an Orca as a dive buddy!!!!

No more worries about sharks!!!

Any ideas on when i can get one??

Regards
miles

[shaneshac]

Hey Miles,

you want one for xmas?

:d

[paddythefrog]

Originally Posted by island_sands

lol Miles! I have been doing lots of documentary watching lately as i was ill in bed for a day and half... they were saying that Orcas are as big as an elephant!! (same weight, as you have already mentioned). wow! when they film them its hard to get a feeling of how large they are.

did you see the Blue Planet series? How the pod of killer whales followed a grey whale and her calf, attacked the calf and all they ate was the lower jaw and tongue!~!! After a six hour hunt and torment... they got it all on really good footage.

I can see the damage they would do to a diver... have you seen the games of tennis they have with baby seals?

haha! Just got myself that blue planet dvd set and it's excellent! I'd take my chances with the GWS before I would an orca

[island_sands]

Originally Posted by paddythefrog

haha! Just got myself that blue planet dvd set and it's excellent! I'd take my chances with the GWS before I would an orca

isn't it just?? i think its the best underwater wildlife series i have ever seen..

[efattah]

I spent New Year's in Tofino on the west coast of Vancouver Island, a popular surfing destination. At 'long beach', there is a small island a few hundred meters off shore. Surfers often get close to that island. One of the surfers told us a story of how he had been near that island surfing, and he saw something amazing. There was a large sea lion suntanning on some elevated rocks near the shore. An orca flew out of the water and took one massive bite -- it took and swallowed the center part of the sea lion -- the head and tail fell away onto the rocks.... It all happened in an instant.