dutch spearos?

[greendiver]

Hi guys...I live and dive/hunt in Spain/gibraltar, I am dutch and visit my home country regurarly, Looking for dutch spearos...and is there anybody diving in holland, please let me know...wanna give it try.(if possible) ;-)

[pim]

yes there are spearos in Holland but they all go abroad to hunt, as it is illegal to do in the Netherlands. Travelling with a sp-gun can give you a lot of questions at the airport, etc; but travelling and owning is legal only not all custom/police officers know this.

greetz pim

[greendiver]

Originally Posted by pim

yes there are spearos in Holland but they all go abroad to hunt, as it is illegal to do in the Netherlands. Travelling with a sp-gun can give you a lot of questions at the airport, etc; but travelling and owning is legal only not all custom/police officers know this.

greetz pim

Thanks Pim, nice site........so where do you guys practice?....pools or abroad aswell? Think lakes are not deep enough and the sea...pffff...

Think I am lucky to live here he? ;-)

bedankt en mischien een keer hier in de buurt, laat ff weten..

[Mr. X]

Originally Posted by pim

yes there are spearos in Holland but they all go abroad to hunt, as it is illegal to do in the Netherlands.

We should start a pro-choice movement to overturn the oppressive NL anti-spearing laws. Isn't that violating our EU Human rights ? Anybody else out there feeling oppressed? Depressed? Bored? Oh, never mind.
[We could start with an "eat less Edam campaign"...]

[takeshi]

It surprises me that spearing is not legal in the netherlands as the law in the netherlands in some other areas seems openminded and constructive, at least compared to sweden.

In sweden not only spearing is illegal but also owning a speargun which falls under the same regulations as firearms. Meanwhile the baltic sea is so cleaned out by commercial fishing that according to marine biologists only a total stop of commercial fishing for several years can save the baltic sea cod from extinction. Of course sweden will not halt commercial fishing in the baltic sea. After all, it does the fish the great favor of keeping spearing illegal.

[Mr. X]

Originally Posted by takeshi

...In sweden not only spearing is illegal but also owning a speargun which falls under the same regulations as firearms...

Jez, and the West criticized the Eastern block of oppression. Your human rights have been trodden on. Are you soft? No wonder the EU is in such a mess -- nobody is standing up for their basic human rights. What kind of modern democratic society improses such Draconian restrictions on the leisure and food gathering of its citizen (apart from the NL)? Whatever happened to "Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness"...oh, that was America wasn't it. Well, I bet the French wouldn't be so daft, nor the Spanish ...and we could all learn a thing or two from the Italians (it is probably no coincidence that these countries are famous for the quality of their food).

[ What to do? Boycott Ikea and Abba? ].

[greendiver]

Originally Posted by Mr. X

We should start a pro-choice movement to overturn the oppressive NL anti-spearing laws. Isn't that violating our EU Human rights ? Anybody else out there feeling oppressed? Depressed? Bored? Oh, never mind.
[We could start with an "eat less Edam campaign"...]

There are many things I do not like in, or about Holland....but never...ever touch my cheese!!!!!

[greendiver]

Originally Posted by greendiver

There are many things I do not like in, or about Holland....but never...ever touch my cheese!!!!!

Well...obviously I am dutch

[greendiver]

Originally Posted by Mr. X

Jez, and the West criticized the Eastern block of oppression. Your human rights have been trodden on. Are you soft? No wonder the EU is in such a mess -- nobody is standing up for their basic human rights. What kind of modern democratic society improses such Draconian restrictions on the leisure and food gathering of its citizen (apart from the NL)? Whatever happened to "Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness"...oh, that was America wasn't it. Well, I bet the French wouldn't be so daft, nor the Spanish ...and we could all learn a thing or two from the Italians (it is probably no coincidence that these countries are famous for the quality of their food).

[ What to do? Boycott Ikea and Abba? ].

You do make a point there....I will have to think about this.... :

[Kars]

Many of the Dutch are well behaved, meaning nicely domesticated by a meriad of ways, Schooling, the needle, chemicals in the skies, GMO food, TV. The Dutch are also a very debased and diveded culture, everything goes, nothing is normal accept for mindlessly waving a stupit flag and worshipping the queen. I would like to put an degrading term there but can serve upto 10 years in prison for offending the queen. George Orwell: "in such utopias some are [offcause] more equal than others"
Yes in the Netherlands too the resistance is well managed by the dominent minority.

Maybe it's time for some civil disobediance?

Love, Courage and Water,

Kars