Sharks in QATAR, Identifying needed please!!

[sanadw]

When my friend dare and go Blue water in one of the deepest water in Qatar, he came back the second day and told me that he will never do it again!!!
he saw a school of giant hammer head sharks that came really close to him ...
at that time I laughed my ass out at him.... Giant sharks in Qatar .... come on man ..no way!!!!
I think its a school of Cubia that you miss identify them they really look like sharks in deep water...

couple of days ago, and since I didn't saw a fish from two weeks, I went to the fish market at the early morning (actually it was night) .... from far away I start to see the bodys of these ghosts.... Huh are these sharks!!!???

jumped out of my car and went directly to the fisherman there.... where the hell are these from????
and he talked about the same area that we used to dive!!!!!


Ok now things are really clear ...... I sure know those 100++ kg Hammer heads..

BUT what is the other one in the middle that is REALLY big ... almost double my size ???

any one know?? the tips of his fins are black!!!

is it aggressive..... any one know??

I really need to know, because now I need a new body here in qatar to dive with me the same area ..... any one mad enough .. and want to dive this water again with me??
guys we really need to shoot one of these .... it will be once in a life time adventure....

[baracuda]

Originally Posted by sanadw

When my friend dare and go Blue water in one of the deepest water in Qatar, he came back the second day and told me that he will never do it again!!!
he saw a school of giant hammer head sharks that came really close to him ...
at that time I laughed my ass out at him.... Giant sharks in Qatar .... come on man ..no way!!!!
I think its a school of Cubia that you miss identify them they really look like sharks in deep water...

couple of days ago, and since I didn't saw a fish from two weeks, I went to the fish market at the early morning (actually it was night) .... from far away I start to see the bodys of these ghosts.... Huh are these sharks!!!???

jumped out of my car and went directly to the fisherman there.... where the hell are these from????
and he talked about the same area that we used to dive!!!!!


Ok now things are really clear ...... I sure know those 100++ kg Hammer heads..

BUT what is the other one in the middle that is REALLY big ... almost double my size ???

any one know?? the tips of his fins are black!!!

is it aggressive..... any one know??

I really need to know, because now I need a new body here in qatar to dive with me the same area ..... any one mad enough .. and want to dive this water again with me??
guys we really need to shoot one of these .... it will be once in a life time adventure....

dude u had me at .. SHARK LOL

dude id dive with you ..... i have already dived at base 2 at halool at NIGHT right under the flame ..
and if u know that place you know its reputation iv seen sharks there 3 quarters the size of the boat o_O

i think da shark in the pic is a black tip reef shark or a spinner shark
but this is the guy you gotta watch out for BULL SHARK http://www.sharkinfo.ch/images/si/bullshark.jpg

i have a film of guys spearing huge sharks comercially ......i had a frend that was afraid of sharks after seeing the film he wants to shoot one

dont forget your the one holding the gun even if you have a 90cm omer u wont be bringing the shark back to the boat but u can make him forget about lunch

plus dont forget there are no seals here so sharks arent use to eating things as big as humans thats why diffrent places in the world have the same sharks but some have shark attacks and others dont it depends what sharks are used to eating ........

a human can easliy be mistaken for a seal but in qatar the biggest thing a shark would eat is a big travally so as long as you dont look like a travally u should be safe

[island_sands]

Originally Posted by sanadw

Ok now things are really clear ...... I sure know those 100++ kg Hammer heads..

BUT what is the other one in the middle that is REALLY big ... almost double my size ???

any one know?? the tips of his fins are black!!!

is it aggressive..... any one know??

I really need to know, because now I need a new body here in qatar to dive with me the same area ..... any one mad enough .. and want to dive this water again with me??
guys we really need to shoot one of these .... it will be once in a life time adventure....

it maybe a black tip but it's nose is awfully like a bronze whaler - those can be aggressive

for that fish market. i have seen black tips in the fish market here in Shindagha as well

beautiful scalloped hammerheads too - shoot those fishermen!!!!

[gladiator]

Originally Posted by baracuda

dude u had me at .. SHARK LOL

dude id dive with you ..... i have already dived at base 2 at halool at NIGHT right under the flame ..
and if u know that place you know its reputation iv seen sharks there 3 quarters the size of the boat o_O

i think da shark in the pic is a black tip reef shark or a spinner shark
but this is the guy you gotta watch out for BULL SHARK http://www.sharkinfo.ch/images/si/bullshark.jpg

i have a film of guys spearing huge sharks comercially ......i had a frend that was afraid of sharks after seeing the film he wants to shoot one

dont forget your the one holding the gun even if you have a 90cm omer u wont be bringing the shark back to the boat but u can make him forget about lunch

plus dont forget there are no seals here so sharks arent use to eating things as big as humans thats why diffrent places in the world have the same sharks but some have shark attacks and others dont it depends what sharks are used to eating ........

a human can easliy be mistaken for a seal but in qatar the biggest thing a shark would eat is a big travally so as long as you dont look like a travally u should be safe

Hey Baracuda:

This is very assuring to me that sharks will not attack here in Qatar. A buddy of mine last year was swimming deep in Khor Odaid and spotted a 2 meter hammer head. Every weekend I'm scared shi_less expecting to see one when I'm in khor odaid area. Now I can relax a bit. I'm more worried about my friend shooting the shark. You said that shooting a shark will prevent you from becoming lunch, but what if there are more than one shark in the area? wouldn't the blood attract them more and put them in hunting moode?

[tecdave]

Could be a silky Shark??

[Amphibious]

please be aware shark numbers in the Arabian Gulf are VERY low. blame polution, overfishing, gillnets, etc.... they is no skill involved in shooting one of these beasts. the "machismo" of shark fishing is blow way out of proportion. take it from someone who caught A LOT of sharks in his youth in the Gulf (young, dumbm, and didn;t know the facts). I if you're looking for a Gulf trophy I would suggest you forget the sharks are start chasing the tuna that frequent the gulf offshore in the winter, and leave what few sharks the Gulf has left alone. shark attacks in the gulf are VERY rare. don;t be afraid of them, respect them, and if you see one while hunting, just enjoy the experience.

really hope if you shoot one you intend on eating it.

[sanadw]

First of all .... I always eat what I shoot ... be sure of that ... will never shoot something for the fun of shooting only .

(ok maybe some times I shoot needlefish when target practicing , but those things are becoming like jelly fish here eating allot of the bait fish and taking the place of other species.)

now back to sharks.... First of all I think you can't compare spearfishing to commercial fishing .... think how much can a spearfishing man kill form those sharks in all his life??? .... I don't think that you can spear half the number of what I saw that day in the fish market!!! .
so please stop talking about not to spear this or that ... you can't compare what we shoot in all our life to one harvest of comerical fishing!!! don't you think so???
Come on for God sake Japanese are still shooting whales until this moment!

I think if I saw one of those in the water, I will not think twice in shooting it, unless there is rules against that!!!

CUDA my fellow friend ..... Man your totally Crazy..... Night dive under the flame ... man I don't even dare to think about it

I hope after the asian games will manage to fix my boat ... and will start or join your team ... name it the way you like . and will start raiding these deep waters ..... cause right now all my team is amateurs that can't be trusted as bodies!!
If you blackout or something .... they will enjoy watching you!!!!!

Yo ... CUDA what if you saw one of these .... will you spear it???

... WHAT ABOUT YOU SARAH????

[Amphibious]

I think you will be very disapointed after the hunt. myself and both my spearfishing partners took large shark (6-7ft) when we were spearfishing in the gulf. they died very quickly, they were easy to shoot, and they were not very good to eat. after that the "adventure" of sspearing a shark was completly lost.

if you're concerned about the about of sharks harvested by commercial fisherman, wouldn't spearing one just be contributing to the overall take?

I spent over 10yrs spearfishing the gulf. every year I saw less sharks. every year the spearfishing got worse. coincidence? I think not.

[Pastor]

Originally Posted by sanadw

First of all I think you can't compare spearfishing to commercial fishing .... think how much can a spearfishing man kill form those sharks in all his life??? .... I don't think that you can spear half the number of what I saw that day in the fish market!!! .
so please stop talking about not to spear this or that ... you can't compare what we shoot in all our life to one harvest of comerical fishing!!! don't you think so???
Come on for God sake Japanese are still shooting whales until this moment!

I think if I saw one of those in the water, I will not think twice in shooting it, unless there is rules against that!!!

Does harvesting less make it right?

[sanadw]

Originally Posted by Pastor

Does harvesting less make it right?

I don't know whats the rules in your country!! But here there is no rules for commercial fishing.... there is only two rules for them here.... the size of the net and no shrimping!!!
they can fish any time of the year any place any QUANTITY!!!
allot of the fish, craps and lobster ... are still carrying there eggs ..... imagine how much can be saved if they just gave them the chance for a month or two to land there eggs!!???
very simple few rules can make a huge difference!!!???
the local fish and the very few reefs .... are almost reaching there end here, (Amphibious) is totally right ... every year is worst here.. ....
But is what we spear here can make a difference .... absolutely not .

(thats if we want to ignore pollution and Global Warming)

But do commercial fishing make things worse ....????
in this country, absolutely YES.

what a subjet!!!

[baracuda]

Originally Posted by gladiator

Hey Baracuda:

This is very assuring to me that sharks will not attack here in Qatar. A buddy of mine last year was swimming deep in Khor Odaid and spotted a 2 meter hammer head. Every weekend I'm scared shi_less expecting to see one when I'm in khor odaid area. Now I can relax a bit. I'm more worried about my friend shooting the shark. You said that shooting a shark will prevent you from becoming lunch, but what if there are more than one shark in the area? wouldn't the blood attract them more and put them in hunting moode?

sharks are everywhere i saw a 1 and a half meter one in 3 foot of water at safliya island i was just standing on the shore 5 mins later me and my frends were all swimming in the exact spot........

there is a spot that we dive at that onetime i was fishing with a 100kg line and i hooked something that pulled the boat around for 20mins before breaking the line ... a few days later we were diving in the same spot again

i think if you shot a big shark its unlikley another big shark is the same area its rare anough to see one ..,most sharks here are small "although hammers do school together"

[baracuda]

Originally Posted by sanadw

First of all .... I always eat what I shoot ... be sure of that ... will never shoot something for the fun of shooting only

(ok maybe some times I shoot needlefish when target practicing , but those things are becoming like jelly fish here eating allot of the bait fish and taking the place of other species.)

now back to sharks.... First of all I think you can't compare spearfishing to commercial fishing .... think how much can a spearfishing man kill form those sharks in all his life??? .... I don't think that you can spear half the number of what I saw that day in the fish market
so please stop talking about not to spear this or that ... you can't compare what we shoot in all our life to one harvest of comerical fishing!!! don't you think so???
Come on for God sake Japanese are still shooting whales until this moment

I think if I saw one of those in the water, I will not think twice in shooting it, unless there is rules against that!!!

CUDA my fellow friend ..... Man your totally Crazy..... Night dive under the flame ... man I don't even dare to think about it

I hope after the asian games will manage to fix my boat ... and will start or join your team ... name it the way you like . and will start raiding these deep waters ..... cause right now all my team is amateurs that can't be trusted as bodies!!
If you blackout or something .... they will enjoy watching you!!!!!

Yo ... CUDA what if you saw one of these .... will you spear it???

... WHAT ABOUT YOU SARAH????

for suuure man ...

there are sooo many locations that have unexplored underwater structures that are full of fish...u need to drop a anchor and drive very slowly until it hooks up on something to find them . " and if you find something that nobody knows about get ready for BIG FISH !!!

and about the picture : you say so eat everything u shoot .. i advise you NOT to shoot that then

o ya and guess what i saw at base 2 one time when we were collecting lobster ------> http://www.chem.ucla.edu/dept/Facult.../Sailfish.jpeg

i dont think anyone has every speared one in qatar !!!

[Craig Thailand]

Check out this bad boy that i saw on the Burma banks 2 weeks ago, 5 meters and fast.

Sanadw - After taking a roasting from a user on here about a previous comment it is great to see someone that is under the same impression as i am, people shoot all kinds of fish everyday of the week, but as soon as I mention shark and speargun in the same sentance its all hisses and boos. Wake up people we are all spear fishermen and we all enjoy the sport as well as the meals. I have enough money to put food on the table but i enjoy the sport and the challange, but I always eat what I shoot, however ifIi shoot a big shark it will be as a trophy not a meal, that is me being honest. When we see 150kg marlin being shot do these people think that it is going on the table, I doubt it very much. I really want to shoot a big shark and if you are serious about doing this I would like to fly out there and join you, if I may?

Amphibious - One reason that i may not shoot a shark is the excact one you mention in your post, you have shot big sharks in the past and can you really say they are poor fighters? It would make sence because whenever I have caught them on rod and line they don't fight as well as a tuna of the same wieght. A 100kg bluefin puts up a much bigger fight than a 100kg Bullshark. I have thought about this many times and it is the only reason i can see not to shoot one. Could you describe what it was like, the catch in detail, of a big shark? I would like to hear a non biassed opinion from someone that has already done what I am planning to do. You must have been in the same situation as I am now, planning, hoping, imagining.
Thanx in Advance

[Qatar_hunter]

Originally Posted by sanadw

First of all .... I always eat what I shoot ... be sure of that ... will never shoot something for the fun of shooting only.

(ok maybe some times I shoot needlefish when target practicing , but those things are becoming like jelly fish here eating allot of the bait fish and taking the place of other species.)

now back to sharks.... First of all I think you can't compare spearfishing to commercial fishing .... think how much can a spearfishing man kill form those sharks in all his life??? .... I don't think that you can spear half the number of what I saw that day in the fish market!!! .
so please stop talking about not to spear this or that ... you can't compare what we shoot in all our life to one harvest of comerical fishing!!! don't you think so???
Come on for God sake Japanese are still shooting whales until this moment!

I think if I saw one of those in the water, I will not think twice in shooting it, unless there is rules against that!!!

CUDA my fellow friend ..... Man your totally Crazy..... Night dive under the flame ... man I don't even dare to think about it

I hope after the asian games will manage to fix my boat ... and will start or join your team ... name it the way you like . and will start raiding these deep waters ..... cause right now all my team is amateurs that can't be trusted as bodies!!
If you blackout or something .... they will enjoy watching you!!!!!

Yo ... CUDA what if you saw one of these .... will you spear it???

... WHAT ABOUT YOU SARAH????

Sanad I do have Baracuda on vedio cam diving under the flame ----Just bettwen you and I dont tell him that I lost this type---

[island_sands]

Originally Posted by Qatar_hunter

Sanad I do have Baracuda on vedio cam diving under the flame ----Just bettwen you and I dont tell him that I lost this type---

oops! heheheheh

How's your weighting coming along?