DIY Fluid Goggles

[OceanMan]

I first thought about Europe only but if you guys from Israel are enough to make the second shipment cost reasonable for each freediver, it is ok.

I make a big command and then I send to everyone his lenses by post. So if you pay for the second shipment, I send it to everywhere you want.

Let me know if you are still interested.

[DeepThought]

All depends on costs ofcourse.
How much would 100lenses+shipment to France costs?
Do you have any way to find out how much a shipment from France to Israel costs?

[OceanMan]

If we manage to command 100 lenses or more the cost is 4,62€ per lenses. Otherwise it's ~26€ per lenses. It seems quiet incredible but it's what has been said in the previous post in this thread. The shipment cost must be close to 40 €.

The shipment to Israel should not cost more than 6 € according to the french post office web site.

[le poisson chat]

Hi there again
Im from Israel and I can find a couple of people also (I hope that they r not the same as Michael's )
Besidez I know a few people from russia that will take them too (I need to check this though)
Bottom line is that I can take about 10 pairs, maybe more.

[OceanMan]

Ok 10 pairs so 20 more lenses.

We have 50-60 lenses already. 100 are reachable.

Let's go on.

[DeepThought]

Hey! always good to meet another Israeli on board!

Any chance you're Dan from Siam?
We probably know some of the same people, but not all of them.

OceanMan, we'll start gathering some people. I hope the cost is indeed 6euro per package. Do you know what kind of mail is that> (as in how fast it'll get here)

[efattah]

Have you told the people ordering that there is only a 10% chance that their lenses will result in working goggles?

It is much harder than it seems. In the past many people ordered 'just lenses' from me and I warned every one of them. In the end about 1/10 actually managed to make working goggles.

Fine for people to make a group order, but make sure they know what they are getting into.

Did you tell them that they need to spend 3 hours trying to scratch out the anti-fog coating inside their swim goggles, to make the glue stick? And that in doing that there is a 75% chance the goggle will be ruined?

[OceanMan]

It seems that several people here have managed to build their own fluid goggle with success. So nothing impossible.

DeepThough I will get some information about the post/mail and I let you know.

[efattah]

It's not impossible to make your own goggles, but it is much harder than it seems.

When people would order lenses from me, I would warn them that it was a hard process.

Most people would eventually complain later, saying that their goggles 'didn't work' and they wanted their money back for the lenses. But, it wasn't my fault since I warned them in the first place.

That's why I stopped selling just the lenses!

[hardhat]

I'm curious, is it the cost of the fluid googles that is making most of the people on this thread want to make their own fluid goggles, or is it the challenge of making them. $165.00 US isn't all that much to spend on a piece of equipment for freediving. When I look at the cost of suits,or fins (bi fins or mono fins) for freediving, I find it hard to believe that someone would be that hard pressed to put the money out for something like fluid goggles.

[DeepThought]

Hardhat, you may find it hard to believe but 165$ for some of us it is a lot of money.
I'm a poor student. There's a '-' infront of a nice sum of money in my bank account. The situation is the same for many of my student friends. In some countries the earning/expenses ratio is not as good as in the US. I even canceled on a mono I was fantasizing of that costs about the same sum of money. I'm freediving with 3y/o plastic fins.
My estimates are that no matter how hard I'll work (which I don't really at this exact moment, though it'll change in 2 weeks) I won't be able to go through university without any support from my parents. That's the same for 100% of my student friends.
Among the list of Israeli freedivers who will join this order, beside students there are also teenagers.

Considering that fluid goggles rank pretty low on the essentials for diving (for most of us atleast), somewhere after weights and even a nose clip (which I'll probably do my own as well), many can't justify that expense.

(and yes, there's always something nice in the DIY challange)

[DeepThought]

Eric, thank you for sharing your difficulties (and inventing the goggles!!).

I am aware of (some of) the risks of trying to make them my own.
With the cost of a little more than a cheap meal I am willing to take that risk as it's the only chance I'll get to have fluid goggles in the next few years.
I have a few old swimming goggles laying around that won't be of any loss if the attempt would fail.

I was thinking of attatching the lenses to the sides of the goggles through some plastic extender rather than to the goggles' lenses themselves.
Making holes in goggle's lenses and puting the fluid lneses inside is also an option (if allignment seems to work).
Last option is to put them in any round frame (a cross section of a pipe for example) with a band to wear them. Will be Crude and uncomfertable, the rather salty water of the red-sea will sting more than I intended, but it should work. I've seen this last version made by Bevan.

[Mlaen]

4.62€ per pair?
How much would it be a total cost with shipment to Croatia...
If it's now too much count me in for one pair (I'll ask if anyone else is interested)!

[phreak]

I went ahead Ignoring all the "this is a specialist thing" "you cant make them" Dont waste your money" and I made some! There was NO anti fog coating that took three hours to scrape off with an accurately calculated 75% risk of ruining the goggles.

My goggles work and they look great and they are on the earlier pages of this thread.

My advice is if you want to try, Go for it! use your inventive nature and build something. lets face it, its the joy of making something for yourself that you can use that counts

Get stuff free or make stuff Dont feed the machine!!!

Phreak .

[Jon]

What if some of us from the States got in on your order?

If you could ship them here, reasonably, I think we could round up the rest of the needed 100 minimum order.

Jon