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#31
September 6th, 2007
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I have used such a setup for a CNF dives.... Dived with a mask (omer abyss) and a paradisia noseclip to about 15m (my hands were free so swiming down was confortable). At 15m I removed the noseclip and proceded with my decent (by then the depth would have been suficient to be able to freefall).
miha 
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#32
September 10th, 2007
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I'm not sure where you live or what you have for local shopping sources but try potato chip bag clips. I bought a set of Power Clips(2 in the package) for $1 yesterday at Dollar Tree, a local place to buy stuff cheap. The Power Clips are distributed by: Greenbrier International 500 Volvo Parkway Chesapeake, VA 23320 They measure 3" wide by 2.25" tall. They are made out of metal and they have a wavy indentation that catches the nose and helps to hold them in place. They work BEAUTIFULLY. You can take them off very easily just like you would take any clip off a bag of potato chips. I could see that you could easily cut the opposite side off the clip and it would probably take it down to a 2" by 2.25" clip. I have already figured out how to attach a line to the clip, quite easy to do, so that it will stay out of the way when you want it to. Yes, that has been one problem I have been having, keeping everything out of the way of everything else around the mouth/nose area. After seeing how well they was working on land I decided to take them out to the local state park beach in the late afternoon and see how well they would work once both they and my nose were wet. I have no intentions of returning them, to put it modestly. They work better than anything I have seen thus far and given the ease of putting them on and taking them off it makes them a true winner in my eyes. I haven't seen anything that is as ease to use, thus far, as what they are. They are comfortable to wear as well. I took a look at the clamp that was mentioned, I believe, a few years ago in a post about pipe masks. The clamp the guy was using fit so tight it hurt. He used rubber bands to try to keep the clamp from wanting to close as hard. The Power Clips don't have that much force on them but they do have enough force to shut off the nose so you can properly equalize with them on. Admittedly, I haven't tried them yet in a true diving situation, but I feel quite confident given what I have seen in the water that they will continue to perform better than anything else I have used so far. I just hope I remember to take them off when I start to ascend. Ryan
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#34
September 11th, 2007
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Here's a picture of it.
 I was going to post this earlier today shortly after you asked but I noticed that the darn rain had stopped falling and after checking out radar I decided to head out to the lake and give it a real run for the money, okay so it only cost me $1 for two of them. To put it simply I have ZERO intention of return them. I will use them for diving and nothing else. They work great and when you go to put them back on after surfacing from the previous dive. They go on quickly and they stay on. They work FAR BETTER than anything else I have seen thus far. I think the "serrarations" on the clip part of the clip is what helps it to hold to the nose once it and the nose are wet. I have tried other flat clips, both metal and plastic, and they come right off once they are wet. This thing doesn't come off at all until you take it off. It makes equalizing something to be looked forward to instead of something to dread having to do. It did seem a little strange to be hands free diving. Typically I have been diving to the bottom, around 28 feet and then coming right back up, not spending anytime at the bottom, no desire since it is pitch black and cold anyways. On the first dive I got down to the temperature drop, roughly 20 feet, and bailed. I took off back for the surface. I ended up making it down 23-24 feet before the cold and darkness psyched me out. I have to get use to that, DRATS! I came up and I was about 2/3 to 3/4 of the way back to surface when I realized a "slight" problem. I had forgot to take the nose clips off. With the old clips I just let go with my hand and everything would be fine, the clips were that bad at pinching the nose off that you could easily "reverse equalize" on the way coming up. I corrected it on the second dive after reaching the bottom I decided to see if I was neutrally bouyant at 28 feet or not...I was still very slowly rising at 28 feet, with 3 pounds on me, 3 pounds more than I normally carry. Thanks to the pause to check out bouyancy I also remembered to take the clips off. The third dive was even better and one other thing I had been interested in checking out I finally remembered to do. FINALLY. Now if I can get myself programmed to take the clips off each time before I surface, I shall be doing pretty good. Fortunately, I am diving in shallow water, very fortunately. Until the wetsuit changes I don't think the shallow water diving will change much. Guess that will give me plenty of time to get use to removing the nose clips before surfacing, LMAO!!! Ryan
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#35
September 12th, 2007
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Hey m2b,
this sounds much like a fair deal on a working noseclip, thanks for sharing! I am wondering why You are so keen on getting the clip off before surfacing. I can only think of a safety issue that would make available another airway when on the surface, but that seems a bit weak on my side. Could You explain? - Thanks in advance
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#36
September 12th, 2007
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One of the post, sorry I don't remember which one(I've pretty much over the past week have been looking at post on pipe masks/goggles and nose clips) made mention of taking off the nose clips before starting to head to the surface so you don't end up doing essentially the same thing as not equalizing while going down, but instead your heading up. You get the "same pressure" build up on your ears while surfacing and unless you release the pressure you could run into the same problems. The way I realized that I hadn't taken off the clips on the first dive yesterday was noticing a little pressure that did seem to release but not as quickly as it would if I didn't have the nose clips on. It actually seems the pressure is inside the nose rather than the ear canal, the more I think about it(from yesterday). The air that you equalize with stays inside nose and than it seems like when you start to surface the air wants to expand but it has nowhere to go. I know when I take off the nose clips that I end up with bubble emerging from the nose(I'm not exhaling) so this does make some sense.
Can someone refresh my memory on what had been said about this in a previous post. I know right now I shall stick with removing them, it does make the surfacing "process" feel much more comfortable. Ryan
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#37
September 12th, 2007
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Does your clip lock m2b or does it exert constant pressure? Does this cause any pain?
I recently got a Paradisia noseclip. I have not had a chance to use it for depth but I use it for dynamics. It is extremely well designed and constructed and very comfortable.
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#38
September 12th, 2007
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No real pressure is noticed. On some of the other "clipping" nose clips that I have experiemented with they have put pressure on the nose, sometimes incredible pressure on the nose. The carpenters clamp that someone made mention of on a pipe mask post, I think The Ultimate Pipe Mask, or something like that, should be on the front page of the Freediving Equipment section(I believe), put tremendous pressure on the nose. Sure, you could use rubber bands or rope to hold it open more so it wouldn't put as much pressure on the nose but the problem came when it got wet it wouldn't stick to the nose.
The one I bought does stick to the nose when wet, it doesn't take excessive force to get it on or off(it doesn't have a powerful spring built into it), and it easily be made to stay out of the way of your mouth. Granted I don't remove the snorkel when I dive but one thing I was noticing a few weeks back was that if I wanted to remove the snorkel the nose clip line was always in the way for removing or putting back on the snorkel. I just took a piece or string, tied it around the clip, ran it up over my ear, down through the hood, and tied it onto the zipper of my wetsuit. It stays out of the way all the time. Couldn't be better. Now if I decide I want to start taking the snorkel out to dive I don't have to worry about pulling the clips off and when I go to put the snorkel back in I don't have to worry about have the clip line in my way either. Ryan
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#39
September 12th, 2007
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Ryan, don't do anything before You get used to removing Your snorkel when diving! have You taken a freediving course yet? It's well worth the time and money and could save Your life! concerned, Richard
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September 12th, 2007
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Ryan,
Thanks for a picture of the clip! Keeping a soft palate in neutral position should release the pressure in your ears on the way up without necessity of taking off the clip. Haven't had a chance to practice it though. Regards, Wojtek
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#41
September 13th, 2007
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Even if this isn't that much air, it will still be good head-wise. It is for me anyway, upon ascent I also breathe in the expanding air from the mask. (I don't have pipe goggles or anything of the kind, but a plain old sphera.  )
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