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Re: New computers

Anyone have a price on the D4? I need to know how much to sock away haha .
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Re: New computers

Just saw on a dutch online dive shop EUR 400,- but only available as per eary 2008
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Re: New computers

the D4 spec. list is a big dissapointment for me, and a freaky merging (confusion) by their product department. It looks more like a D3 + Mosquito + cool case/screen.

The ONLY advantage i can see is smoother curves due to 3 seconds/sample.

I bought a used Mosquito on ebay for US$250 and won't be upgrading.

Trux had published some cool "wish list" upgrade recommendations but no one at suunto appeared to listen. Kinda funny launching a "new product" without taking feedback from the relatively small freedive community. I'm sure 95% of their target sales and sales pitch is for scubbies.

My wish list:
- surface time alarms settable at multiple of down time (for example 2x)
- alarms that you could actuals feel or see underwater (actual ones are useless)
- (not watch but Dive Manager) software to observe progress:
i. view all days dives on one axis to observe dive reflex reaction
ii. view a periods dives over time to view performance increases in depth/time/DR
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Re: New computers

Can I ask again what happened to the F1?
Why was it replaced with a scuba diving computer which I can't afford and don't need?
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Re: New computers

Sunfish,

The F1 was phased out simply because the freediving market just wasn't there to support it. I can tell you that it and the X1 are both still better than any freediving computer I've ever tried and likely will ever try. Few freedivers are willing to pay more than 500 for a diving computer, but to build an F1/X1 simply costs too much money to sell it at that price. I know that the original goal was to make an affordable freediving computer, and maybe someday that will happen when Liquivision has grown and can mass produce computers, which may come sooner than later.

And the F1/X1 is not bulky. That's a popular misconception. Yes, it looks big on the website. But when you're 40m down on a recreational dive, and it's dark, and the OLED is glowing so brightly that it actually acts as a light source to illuminate the wall you're diving along, you realize other computers just don't cut it. I dive with it without fins and it never gets in the way. The whole point of it is it's not a watch, it's a computer.

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Re: New computers

Thanks for your reply Pete. It's still the computer I aspire to own.
Maybe one will come up secondhand sometime!
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Re: New computers

anyone try the nemo apneist yet? how does it compare to the d4?
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Re: New computers

I have an F1 with all the accesories for sale for $350 Euro - excellent condition
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Re: New computers

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I know that the original goal was to make an affordable freediving computer, and maybe someday that will happen when Liquivision has grown and can mass produce computers, which may come sooner than later.

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I hope so, it will happen soon. Good luck for it!
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I have an F1 with all the accesories for sale for $350 Euro - excellent condition
So - dollars or Euro? But good price anyway. I will ask some my friends if they want it (I have bougt X1)

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350 Euro - thanks
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Re: New computers

I am very tempted to buy that thing off You, but atm, I think that a better computer won't make me a better diver... being rational sucks.
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Re: New computers

of course it will make you a better diver
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Re: New computers

Does anyone know of any simple computers for under $200, I am just looking for something simple that's going to to tell me the depth I reached and my bottom time, and store a few of those data sets in memory. Surely all the Suunto computers are very nice but I don't do enough scuba anymore to spend all that cash on an all-out diving computer...
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Re: New computers

In Dahab, You can get the d3 for <180€ - With appropriate haggling and the d4 coming out, the deals might get even better.
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