AERIS F.10 User Feedback

Doug Krause · #1 October 7th, 2009

Have suggestions for improvement? New features? Questions?

ILDiver · #2 October 7th, 2009

The log does not seem to contain any Temperature info. Might be nice when comparing results of dives

The other feature I mentioned in the other thread. It would be nice to be able to set the depth at which it starts to log. Maybe in 1' increment or .1m... That way it can track Dynamics in the pool, but be set a little deeper for open water so you are not triggering it all the time. Would be a good tool for tracking Dynamic workouts.

I love this watch. I'm glad i made the purchase.

DivingDane · #3 October 8th, 2009

ILdiver when you are in Log mode simply tap the bottom right hand button and it will show temperature. is that what you were looking for?

DD

DivingDane · #4 October 8th, 2009

getting ahead of myself just a bit but maybe it would be cool to have a limited edition unit with beefed up housing for deeper depths... maybe only available to divers over 100m. (prooven by AIDA results)give some different external touches etc.

DD

Doug Krause · #5 October 8th, 2009

Great minds think a lot DD - some are just a little slower than others...

Martin and I were really pushing for this... we wanted to offer a unit with a max operating depth of at least 122m, but it is not to be, for the time being anyway. It will require a redesigned, likely metal housing. Considering we were discussing the F.10 here more than a year ago... you're not getting too ahead of yourself. Great idea - thanks -

trux · #6 October 8th, 2009

Well, I am not a user (yet), but hope you do not mind commenting too.

As for the depth threshold for triggering the dive mode - I agree that it is a big hassle at all current computers. The best would be if one could not only adjust the depth, but also define the minimal time you need to be in that depth to start the dive. That's useful to avoid false positives at just some test or accidental immersions. So for example one could set the depth to 50cm and minimal time 5s - so the computer would start the diving mode only if you keep it 50cm or deeper uninterrupted during 5 seconds. It would then start counting from the beginning, of course (already counting the 5 sec).

And even better would be if the user could set up several profiles with different parameters - for example a different one for statics, for pool dynamics, for constant weight, for recreational diving, spearing, etc. In the same time, in the profiles also other parameters could be set - like different types of alarms, or display modes. The user could then set the desired profile with all the associated parameters quickly, without messing too long with changing all the parameters individually.

The another extremely useful feature would be the ability to upload time tables to the watch. For example, most of competitive freedivers have a rather special schedule for dive preparation or warm-up before their top time. They either keep it in the head, and then calculate when they have to start with individual tasks, or write it down on a sheet, once they know their Top Time. If the time table was already preloaded on the watch, it would be sufficient to enter the Top Time once announced (or changed), and the watch would already alert the freediver at each programmed step.

And similarly useful would be the possibility to upload training tables or entire training sessions. The computer would then coach the freediver through the training. I did already pretty detailed analysis of such functions (having developed the ATM training software), so could feed you with much more details that are involved, if you are interested. Or, as I already offered, I could even develop the modifications for you (firmware development was one of my jobs too), where you could accept the result only if you like it, and if it is conform with your specifications.

ILDiver · #7 October 8th, 2009

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Originally Posted by DivingDane

ILdiver when you are in Log mode simply tap the bottom right hand button and it will show temperature. is that what you were looking for?

DD

I was refering to the dive log after download. I didn't see it tracked there. Maybe I missed it.

trux · #8 October 8th, 2009

And yet another wish (perhaps it was already mentioned before) - a programmable control of the display backlight. It would be nice if one could program that the watch turns on the backlight at specific dive time, depth, each time I stop (i.e. at equalization problems, or at the bottom plate). When I arrive down to the plate, I often try to look at the watch, but at most computers, it is not easy to turn on the light. At Suunto for example you need to hold a button for 5 sec. The 5 sec are already pretty long, and pushing the button, especially with gloves, is not always easy. Also at surfacing, the backlight may be useful in some situations (night diving, cave diving). And the duration of the light should be programmable too.

Well, it is clear that such feature would contribute seriously to shorter battery life, especially if not used wisely, but it should be let upon the user whether he accepts t or not.

And again, ideal would be if the backlight programming could be associated to user profiles, allowing so for quick mode change without long messing up with the watch.

trux · #9 October 8th, 2009

And of course, it would be welcome if one could manage all alarms, and other parameters through the PC interface. Programming diving computers with the help of the buttons is never user friendly, it is quite long, and it is easy to make mistakes. Nice PC interface would allow for complex programming, including the creation of user profiles, and time tables much more effectively and ergonomically.

ILDiver · #10 October 8th, 2009

Trux, I got scolded for glancing at my watch. (in a Czech accent) "you can check your depth at the surface, it is not important down there!" I see your point...

ILDiver · #11 October 8th, 2009

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Originally Posted by trux

And of course, it would be welcome if one could manage all alarms, and other parameters through the PC interface. Programming diving computers with the help of the buttons is never user friendly, it is quite long, and it is easy to make mistakes. Nice PC interface would allow for complex programming, including the creation of user profiles, and time tables much more effectively and ergonomically.

If you buy the download cable you can manage all settings through the PC

Fondueset · #12 October 8th, 2009

There is temp data in the log - but it is not available in the graph and dive details (it's elsewhere in the dive screens - I don't have the software on this machine but if you dig you'll see it. - I've got three suggestions for stuff I'd like to see on the graph and in the dive profile screen:

Rate of ascent - avg. and displayable at one sec intervals along the graph if possible.
Rate of descent - same
Temp - same

Seems like the data is collected - certainly the a and d rates could be calculated from available data.

trux · #13 October 8th, 2009

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Originally Posted by ILDiver

Trux, I got scolded for glancing at my watch. (in a Czech accent) "you can check your depth at the surface, it is not important down there!" I see your point...

Well, I can hear it

But of course, everyone knows there are situations where it is really useful, and there are situations where it is really needed. So for example if you plan doing some statics down there, or if you want to avoid blackout because someone has put your bottom plate 10 meters deeper than you asked for (as it already happened to several freedivers). Well, already the depth alarm is useful for that purpose, but having the possibility to check the display quickly would be better.

ILDiver · #14 October 8th, 2009

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Originally Posted by trux

Well, I can hear it

But of course, everyone knows there are situations where it is really useful, and there are situations where it is really needed. So for example if you plan doing some statics down there, or if you want to avoid blackout because someone has put your bottom plate 10 meters deeper than you asked for (as it already happened to several freedivers). Well, already the depth alarm is useful for that purpose, but having the possibility to check the display quickly would be better.

You can set time interval alarms too. So it will beep every 10 seconds, 1 seconds, 30...whatever. The backlight can be set to stay on for up to 60 seconds. So it it does have a good duration.

Fondueset · #15 October 8th, 2009

I'm with Martin on the gauge checking at depth - but this one is way easy to read.