Static PB's

[ivan]

hi

Spearfishing at 47m for 3mins thats incredible. what is it about the mountains that allows this to happen can you get these benefits somehow from living on the coast.

cheers

[zipy]

hi

As i know air high up in mountains is thiner so your body produces more eritrocits that can carry O2. Your blood becomes denser. I don't think you can get that effect at sea level.

But it would be cool !


Zipy

[ivan]

hi

Those guys are lucky living in the mountains, but on the other hand having the ocean 100m from your house is pretty cool as well.

cheers

[gerard]

where that freediver trains in the "Andes". That would be the ideal training environment. If the H20 was salty that would be the perfect scenario. The cold conditions makes training harder due to the extra O2 needed for thermoregulation.

[Minotauro]

Hi ! can someone direct me to the technique of diving (horizontal)
in pool. my static is for about 4 min. but, when moving I spent too much O2, and even 50m becomes a problem. help

[ivan]

hi

Mate Im having the same problems converting my static to constant depths.

cheers

[gerard]

I can help you my "little grasshopper":

1. First check your streamlining technique. Make sure you are swimming with the least drag possible.

This is an example of a streamlined position:

http://www.spma.net/waynestreatch.htm

Obviously underwater it is different if you are not using fins since you'll be adopting a variation of the breastroke.

2. Increase your V02 max. How?

Simply, train, train and train endurance as often (always bearing in mind your personal recovery levels) and as long as in time as possible. It takes years to get the endurance goodies delivered, but when you get them you'll notice amazing improvements in your apnea results.

3. Don't train dynamics too often. Again allow your body to recover. Listen to your body.

4. Practice relaxation or meditation techniques.

Good luck, gerard.

[Walrus]

I'm a bit confused at advice in the above post.....
"3. Don't train dynamics too often."

Wouldn't that be the best way to get better at dynamics ??
The more diving you do the better you get at it, well that's my theory anyway.

Cheers,
Wal

[ivan]

hi

Wal totally agree if you want to get good at something train at what you want to get good at. Ie you want to be a good deep diver then go deep diving all the time if possible

cheers

[Walrus]

Oops, sorry Gerard, I wasn't trying to have a go at you, I guess I was a little suprised at your comment.

I really do think that doing dynamics/depth diving is the best way to get better at it. I'm sure there is a point at which doing too much will become over-training. But if you look at people that spearfish, some do it several hours in a row. Doing long or close to maximum dynamics/depths would put more stress on your body compared to spearfishing though, so you wouldn't be able to do quite as much in comparison.

It's just reading some of these forums it looks like a lot of beginners place too much emphasis on fitness and think this will improve their apnea ability the most. I know when I have been at my peak "Diving fitness" I have certainly not been at my peak Aerobic or "normal" fitness. Not sure if that makes sense.

Cheers,
Wal

[efattah]

I've been making many pb's in the water recently and I'm in the worst cardio/endurance shape of my life. I switched all my training to power training and I still beat my old pb's.

At the same time, when I think back to when I was in very good cardio shape, I did have fantastic apnea ability (still less than now), but my blood pressure back then was far too low (decreased vascular resistance & decreased BP are negative side effects of endurance training).

After power training, my BP stays nice and high, so I don't suffer as many sambas/BO's, even if my body is not as efficient.


Eric Fattah
BC, Canada

[pkotik]

Eric, have you detailed somewhere what it is you mean by power
training ? Enquiring minds want to know !

[efattah]

Power training = short, maximum effort muscle contractions.

A training session typically lasts less than 45 minutes.

The biggest problem is how to avoid injury to tendons / ligaments / joints.



Eric Fattah
BC, Canada

[gerard]

you must train within your abilities to recover. Apnea is not much different that any other anaerobic type of exercise (sorry Eric when I stated few days ago that diving up in apnea was basically aerobic, I totally forgot the idiosyncrasy of this type of activity). it means that if you overdo it you'll overtrain. And overtraining is a complex issue which involves many factors: Inadequate recovery between training sessions, excessive amounts of high-intensity (and sometimes high-volume) training, sudden changes in training load (distance, duration or intensity), intense strength training, frequent competition and travel, monotony in training programme, no off-season, etc.

BTW, I am not a beginner.

Regards, gerard.

[ivan]

hi

Eric when you say short maximum effort are you talking about lifting weights.

cheers