Static PB's

[ivan]

hi

I know a guy on this forum who told me he smokes like a chimny and drinks like a fish yet he can hunt at 50m with a speargun

cheers

Ps even with all the smoking he has a Lung capacity of 8.5L WITHOUT PACKING

[hydro]

Originally posted by ivan
hi

I know a guy on this forum who told me he smokes like a chimny and drinks like a fish yet he can hunt at 50m with a speargun

cheers

We all had better tolerance to abuse between 15-25 years of age. I doubt that the mentioned person is outside this range. However, abuse eventually catches up with you and I'd advice caution. In any case, it sounds like a big waste of talent to me.

Hydro

[ivan]

hi

Do you mean smoking as abuse ?.

But still hunting at 50m is INSANE and something I will never be able to do.

cheers

[gerard]

Originally posted by ivan
Do you mean smoking as abuse ?.

Ivan, anything that falls outside of the following formula:

1. Smart and structured training

2. Proper nutrition

3. Adequate rest

4. Easy and deep state of mind

The rest are distractions and barriers to achieve your goals.

Take care my young friend. Gerard.

[ivan]

hi

Gerard dont worry I dont smoke, no need to plus Im to poor to buy durries anyway. But what about hunting at 50m thats mad eh.

cheers

[zipy]

hi

Ivan
I don't see a problem hunting at 50m. People do it at 100m (lucky bastards )
There are just a few rules you have to follow (gerard mentioned them ) everiting else is a pice of cake
Don't give up! You have 6 min static why couldn't you get to 50m?

Zipy

[efattah]

We have a guy here in Vancouver who has a pb of 7'09 in dry static and his pb in constant weight is 23m with a questionable recovery.


Eric Fattah
BC, Canada

[zipy]

hi

We have a guy here in Vancouver who has a pb of 7'09 in dry static and his pb in constant weight is 23m with a questionable recovery.

You really didn't have to say that

Zipy

[ivan]

hi

Ha Ha nice one Eric sounds like me in the future stuggling down to 20m. Like I said in another thread I will make 7mins before I dive 100ft or maybe even 90ft. And Eric who is that guy anyways I would like to know why he finds deep diving so hard like me.

Zipy are you sure people hunt at 100m with a speargun floatline etc. Thats hella of an effort, I thought the constant weight record was 90m Carlos Coste and thats without a gun.

I like your confidence for me to get depth but it just aint gonna happen. A 4L lung capacity just isnt good enough to have the air to equalise at depth. My theory about deep diving is that if you havent got enough air in your lungs you are gonna run out of air to equalise with at depth. If you look at all the pros most have at least 10L of air to go down with and one guy has 14.6L. Fattah, Nitsch, Stepanek all have 10L of air and this is why I think they dive so deep. Maybe I should wear a really heavy weightbelt so I can get down really quickly which will make my body think it has air left to use. No matter how fit I get or even if I one day make an 8min static ?? It doesnt make you have air left to equalise with maybe being super fit and having a 8min static might help with being able to pull off a bit of bottom time at depth but you still will run out of air to equalise with if you try go deeper.

cheers

[ivan]

hi

I just thought of a solution to equalising problems. If I could some day use the water filling your equalising tubes so you dont have to waste air equlaising you could dive down like seb murat and it would be kinda like doing a static except coming up would be hard but still that is an ultimate soultion. One problem though I heard that you can drown from doing that equalising method

cheers

[TMcKee]

Ivan,

100ft is a very respectable depth. Id be very happy there. I've been into this for 5 months now and I haven't been in the ocean but twice, 4 months before I really started training! I bet the farm that I can only do 60fsw, max. Really, id be very happy at 100ft with a 45sec bottom time. The biggest pressure change, remember, is between 0-33fsw. This is where you will have to equalize the most.

Tim

[zipy]

hi

Ivan you are wright it is 100ft not 100m
But it is still alot.

Zipy

[ivan]

hi TMckee

I have never thought of what you just said and it kinda makes sense. Are you saying that in the first 33ft of the dive that this is when I will be using most of my precious 4L of air. SO once you start getting past 33ft you shouldnt have to waste so much air equlising. Can you tell me a little more about this please.

Zipy yeah 100ft is more like it

cheers

[efattah]

Ivan/Andrew,

Forget lung volume; remember that Seb Murat goes down extremely deep in cw with a passive exhale! That should boost your confidence about diving with a low lung volume. I would dive on a passive exhale too, if I could dive in 23C+ water (i.e. no suit). Passive exhale dives are only effective without a wetsuit...

Personally I've gone to over 30m with a passive exhale, so at least we know you can hit that.

Eric Fattah
BC, Canada

[ivan]

hi Eric

Yeah that is super confidence but isnt the only reason he can do that is cos he fills the tubes with water so he doesnt need to equalise them and probably has his mask filled with water too. So the only limiting factor should be how much you can go on a passive exhale. Maybe I should start practicing exhale statics. But I dont know how to fill my tubes with water and apparently its dangerous.

I have always thought why guys like you, Nitsch, Stepanek dont fill your tubes with water too surely you can go a lot deeper not having to watse air to equalise but you say cold water is the limit.

Eric do you know how to fill the tubes with water.

cheers