Static PB's

[MANTA99]

I made a new PB dry static of 5min last night beating my old PB by 45 seconds, I still don't think I got any contractions, thats a good thing though I sp'ose. Very happy.

[alastair]

TMcKee asked an interesting question that nobody replied to. If I understood correctly he asked :

Can I make a full lung dive (to reduce deep BO) and then, as I near -15m on the way back up exhale to reduce the vacuum effect of expanding lungs (in order to reduce the chance of SWB).

In addition, I wondered if sprinting the last 15 to the surface in 'anaerobic mode' would help or hurt the situation.

Al

[Walrus]

New Dry Static PB = 6.32

I've never been keen on doing dry statics, but lately since I'm doing CO2 tables dry anyway.....

Did a 3.50 CO2 table, rest = 2 min, static, 1 min, S , 30 secs, S, 20secs, last static. Then did 2 minutes hyperventilating, and did a 6.32 static. That's a PB for me but doesn't really count the same as doing it in the water. Still it's encouraging and shows that I'm capable of more so just have to try harder in the pool

I've never pratcised dry statics and still they are easier then wet statics? I suspect most people would be better at dry statics then wet.

P.S. Also managed a 3 min full exhale static (no reverse packing) doing the same short rest straight after doing a table.

Cheers,
Wal

[Bill]

Aloha Wal
I'm curious about the workup. Is it something you were taught or what works best or..? It's about as far from my workout today as you can get. Is it meant more for spearfishing? Congrats on the PB.
Bill

[Walrus]

Hi Bill,

I've just been doing CO2 tables dry because I can't get down to the pool everyday. I just thought I'd try a couple of statics after since I was warmed up anyways. Thought I read a post where you did a static straight after tables ? The short rest and hyperventilating was something Eric had done on some of his routines, so gave it a try. I don't know if it would make a reliable routine, ie one that would work in a comp.

The CO2 table seems like a shortened down version of the ones on the UK freediver website. Fixed static, then the rests are 2min, 1min, 30sec, 15sec. (The last one is sometimes hard to keep the rest so small) Got it from Sacha Dench who was on the UK team a few years back, then kicked arse on our team last year

My static routine in water is fairly normal, although I do 3 warmups. Something like 3.30, 4.30, 5.00, 6 min rest, max. (PB is 6.08)

Cheers,
Wal

[ivan]

hi

Congrats Wal i knew you could always beat your wet static times on dry there sooooo much easier eh. Did you see on tv last week the 7:30 report there was a topic on freediving it had sacha and Antony judge his dad etc talking about and doing freediving. Ive been away for about 3 weeks been working with 2 jobs 14hours a day so no freediving for me anymore

cheers

[zipy]

hi

first to manta99 and Walrus cong. on new PB (manta99 I haven't noticed your post till now)

To alstar:
it makes no sence to me how could you reduce the vaccum efect by exhailing (but that is just me)

I wondered if sprinting the last 15 to the surface in 'anaerobic mode' would help or hurt the situation

As i know in 'anaerobic mode' your muscles do not take O2 from blood (at that time you brn ATP) so in theory it would help.
And by sprinting for last meters you are faster up

And to Ivan :
Welcome back!

Zipy

[ivan]

hi Zipy

How it goin, Im pretty sorry man cos I havent really been able to practice statics anymore to give you a run for your money, been working to much. But maybe on my days off I will give a try at it.

Have you done any pbs lately ?

cheers

[alastair]

it makes no sence to me how could you reduce the vaccum efect by exhailing (but that is just me)

Yeah Zipy, it's probably stupid, but I suppose that exhaling when you have a small lung volume would reduce the rapid expansion of your lungs as you enter the last part of the dive.

You'd be 'throwing away' whatever O2 you've got left in your lungs, but presumably that isn't much...

Al

[Walrus]

5.01 1st Static ! (Wet, No warmup)
Not a Max PB but certainly a PB for a 1st static. Very suprising, my wet static PB is only 6.08.....

Training with Brad (Loopy) at the pool yesterday, and really didn't feel like doing statics, so I thought I'd just do one for the hell of it. I normally do a bit less then 4 minutes on a first static, thought if I felt good I'd try and beat Brad's final static (4.31). Had a moderate breathe up, normal breathing then about 10 fast & deep breaths. Contractions started at about 2.20 but were very mild. Got to 4.30 and was still quite comfortable, so kept going, aproaching 5 minutes contractions still weren't that fast. Popped up after 5 feeling good, like I could have done quite a bit more.

Contractions started quite early but didn't seem to speed up as much as it normally does on a Max static. It felt more like when you get contractions early on when they are slow and mild, but then extended for a longer duration......
Yeh really wierd didn't think I could do that, then again it may just be a fluke. I'll have to try it again.

Cheers,
Wal

[zipy]

Cong. Walrus 5:01 on first attempt ain't bad at all!!
Well done.
Try again in few days and you will see if it is a fluke. I am looking forward to see the outcome.

Zipy

[BatRay]

Good job Wal.

[Walrus]

Hi All,
At the pool I tried doing a single static again without any warmups and managed 5.20
I could have done a bit longer, felt good at the end, really didn't need to recover much at all. Thinking I might have been doing my statics all wrong over the years. I should try 1 or 2 very short warmups and then a Max, perhaps that will work better ?

Still might try for some longer times with a single static. Think it would be so funny if in a competition you could just hop in the pool without a warmup and still do like a 5.30 static or something.

Anyone else want to try doing a max on your first static ?
I'm curious if it only works for me or if it's something that will work for most people. Contractions do start early but it seems easier to hold it for longer.

Cheers,
Wal

[zipy]

hi

5:20 !! nice
On my first attempt i can only do about 3 min (very dificult). I don't seem to get enough air in my lungs (they are not strecht enough). But i don't do wet static (maybe that is the reason).
I have one question : do you pack (on first attempt) and if you do how many times?

Zipy

[Walrus]

Hi Zipy,

No I wasn't using packing on those attempts. I did some pack stretching before hand which helps you get a bigger breath. I normally used packing on my max statics which helps but makes it harder to relax. I used to do 15-20 packs but then backed off to 5-10 so it's more comfortable. I find Packing for dry statics even worse, seems harder to hold the air in, so I don't do it.

Cheers,
Wal