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View Poll Results: What's your static PB?
0:00-1:00 10 0.71%
1:00-2:00 50 3.57%
2:00-3:00 134 9.58%
3:00-4:00 197 14.08%
4:00-5:00 223 15.94%
5:00-6:00 170 12.15%
6:00-7:00 66 4.72%
7:00+ 549 39.24%
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Erik , your static challenge is a great idea
Perhaps this way I can finally find the motivation to train again . Gotta do SOMETHING before the dreaded 40's set in .
Perhaps you could start a new thread for it and try to drum up more participants .
I will officially start posting results from 1st Dec. if we get this going , need a week to get the smoke out of my lungs ...
I hope this takes off , at least being in such poor condition means I can only improve .

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Here is the results of a lung volume test that was done on me about 2 weeks ago by a group of specialist (Labman) here in Hawaii. These are averaged from people my age 38 and weight 78kg and height 182cm.

Spirometry Pred. Actual
FVC = 5.78 6.93
FEF = 8.47 10.84

Lung Volume Pred. Actual Actual w/Packing
SVC = 5.61 6.98 9.05
TLC = 7.58 9.04 13.24


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LUNG CAPACITY

Thing is, my brain capacity is too limited to hold all those abbreviations.

DSV - I know what THAT means, but could you spell out and
explain the others.

Some of those numbers look very big ! Let's see:

very big . . . .very big . . . ver 'big . .. verbig . ... (Am I getting warm ?)
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hi DSV

Same here I don't really understand what all those letters mean but from the numbers it seems that you have a very good set of lungs, lots better than me. The biggest lungs ive heard of were Hubert Mairs (spelling) which were 10L without packing. Abri from deeperblue did have 8.3L without packing.

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LUNG CAPACITY

Thing is, my brain capacity is too limited to hold all those abbreviations.

DSV - I know what THAT means, but could you spell out and
explain the others.

Some of those numbers look very big ! Let's see:

very big . . . .very big . . . ver 'big . .. verbig . ... (Am I getting warm ?)
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Lung Stuff

Sorry guys,

I have a whole list of numbers and abbr. that I'm not sure of. What I do know is:

FVC: Forced Vital Capacity, the amount of air you can forcefully blow out. 6.93

SVC: Is the same as VC, Vital Capacity, the max amount of air that can be inhale after a full exhalation. 6.98

TLC: Total Lung Capacity, is the max volume of air in the lungs at the end of a max inhalation. 9.04

The numbers are litres.

Under the Lung Volume I wrote 2 lines of number with 3 columns.

First is the predicted amount for normal individuals, my age, my height and my weight.

Second is my actual capacity in litres.

Third is my actual capacity after packing in litres.

Remember I'm not a doctor so please forgive me if I have some info wrong.

I was very amazed to see these numbers and during the tests the doctor told me that I kept breaking his machine.

Anyway it's cool stuff to know. I can't believe it.

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Amazing !

I'm still not certain I get the difference between SVC and TLC.

If SVC is the volume you can inhale after a full exhalation, and TLC
is total lung capacity, then it must be that:
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Amazing !

I'm still not certain I get the difference between SVC and TLC.

If SVC is the volume you can inhale after a full exhalation, and TLC is Total Lung Capacity, then it must be that:

TLC = SVC + RESIDUAL VOLUME

..where Residual Volume is the air left in the lungs after the
"full" exhalation, in other words,

RESIDUAL VOLUME = TLC - SVC

Right ? So it must be that Residual Volume is estimated with
some formula or other, right ?

I used to know this stuff cold ! Is this more or less right ?
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The SVC just measures the amount of air exhaled.
TLC measures the SVC + the RLV Residual Lung Volume to get the sum.

Beyond this explaination please confer a doctor.


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What AM I doing up so late ? Scribble, scribble, scribble, another great fat book, Deron.

With respect to those airbags of yours, I think we should call you
Deron Verybig. I mean, there's enough there for 2 regular guys.
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I've been told the formula is VC X 1.2 0r 1.25.
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Sorry, my PB is since friday wrong.
It isn't 4:40 anymore.
Now it's 5:01! So I'm in the biggest group.

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Hi people, I took Abriapnea's advice and started a new thread: "Static Challenge" under the Freedive Training section.
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... but don't forget the 12' 34" of Gianluca Genoni and still fresh and 100% oxygen saturation level in the tissues when coming up ....

but maybe the trick of a bit hyperventilation with pure oxygen before the trial is not allowed for a real wr
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Hi all, sorry for the delay but a lot of work.
Here is the translation:
"My warming up is:
1'30" of ventilation = 2'30" static apnea
1'30" of ventilation = 3'30" static apnea
2' ventilation = 5-6' static apnea
2' ventilation = 6-7' static apnea
all of this without lung packing.
Then I pack 30 times with 2' ventilation= more than 7'
2' ventilation + pack = 7'30"
2' ventilation + pack =7'50"
2' ventilation + 36 pack = 8 and more

Pre-immersion I don't do anything special, take my clothes off, and get into the water without suit (usually is cold) at 5:30 am, the only diet is to avoid sugar like colas and candys.
The contractions come up variably, without packing sometimes they come at 4 or 5 min (I don't count contractions because I try to avoid it, when it comes I try to make as smooth as possible), with packing they start at 6-6:30, and sometimes I have reached 7 min without it. I think the most important barrier to break is psychological, sometimes I don't sleep properly and that make me think that the time will be bad, but if I don't think about it the time is as good as any other day"
Thats all folks!
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