Static PB's

[BatRay]

Thanks Erik for replying to the other questions. But, I have another question!

What is 'packing'?

You guys have inspired me; I've started trying statics. I've improved; I've done attempts; the first was 1:15, then 1:34, then 1:58, then 2:20. Not much compared to the veterans, but it's getting better, and I'm proud of it.

[loopy]

Hey I know the answer to this one!! And don't be ashamed at 2 mins mate, took me forever to get there, and then about a month to 3:30

Packing is where you take a max breath, and then suck more air in, overpressurising your lungs. You'll see all these numbers around here like 'Lung Volume 8L, 10.5L full packing', that just means they can add an extra 2.5L of air over their maximum breathe in.

[MaxDream]

Eric Fattah:
The fastest deep constant weight dive I have heard of is Pipin Ferreras' 60m in 1'21, using sporasub pure carbon bi-fins

Wow, that's even quicker than I go with a monofin. I did the -60m at the Pacific Cup in 1'26'' without a wetsuit. This dive was timed by one of my teammates.

In a lake in Germany I did a -55m dive in 1'12'' but that is only the time the Mares Apneist freediving computer meassured. The real time for that dive I think was about 1'15'' because this computer does not start the divetime before being at -2m. I did that dive with a 5mm-suit and without any weights.

At those speeds I kick for the whole dive except at the end to avoid jumping out of the water like some dolphin. It's like doing a vertical dynamic dive. I don't know if it's good or bad to dive that fast. Next season I will try if it works too when I dive slower.

When did Pipin do this fast -60m dive?

-maxdream

[BatRay]

My new personal best is 2:34, up from my 2:20 yesterday.

Yay

[efattah]

Pipin was training to do a constant ballast personal best, which was supposed to happen at the same time as Audrey's record (i.e. October). He was aiming for 80m with bifins (personal goal to equalize Pelizzari's old record), but in his progress reports he said he reached 76m with bifins with a samba. He also said he went over 80m with a mono. During this training he did the 60m in 1'21.


Eric Fattah
BC, Canada

[MaxDream]

I was wondering what happened to this announced -80m constant weight dive of Pipin. The anouncement suddenly disappeared from his homepage without further notice. I just took it for a PR-gag then because -80m is really deep for constant weight. But it's good to hear that Pipin has not limited himself to no limits.

In the Ocean Men IMAX movie it's mentioned that Pipin can hold his breath for 8 minutes. Do you have any reports that Pipin is among the 8'+ people?

When did Ravelo do his ultimate static time of 8'25''?
I haven't heard anything about him since his constant weight world record was broken by Umberto. Do you know if he is still freediving and training?

-maxdream

[efattah]

I know that Pipin had claimed an 8'00 dry static. In the ocean men TV movie, it says that both Pipin and Pelizzari can hold their breath for 'over 7 minutes.' Last I heard Pelizzari recently hit 7'58.

I think it was in late '99 when Ravelo was training for some records. He was planning a 150m no-limits record (I think the record at the time was 137m). Sponsorship didn't work out. That was when he hit 8'25, and he also (according to Rudi) did something even more amazing: a 3'00 static followed by a 125m dynamic! Rudi said that Ravelo's pb in constant weight was 81.5m in 3'35, back in 1995, when the record was something like 70m! His problem was that he would always dive too heavy, sinking at 15m, and spending a huge amount of effort during the early ascent.

More recently I heard that Ravelo had registered for 2001 F.R.E.E. World Championship, but the competition never happened. I think he is still spearfishing though. Rudi also said that he once watched over Ravelo on a deep spearfishing dive where Ravelo shot a 200lb+ grouper from 20 feet away at 53m / 175ft, using a pneumatic speargun.

Eric Fattah
BC, Canada

[ivan]

hi

Ravelo spearfishing at 175ft that is amazing. The deepest spearfisherman I heard of before this was world champion Alberto March who spearfishes in excess of 150ft. Please Eric tell us more about this amazing person.

cheers

[jero]

Originally posted by efattah
His problem was that he would always dive too heavy, sinking at 15m, and spending a huge amount of effort during the early ascent.

Yes, I saw a video of his -75m (or -76m ?) record dive. He was sinking like a stone during the entire descent. (and had a a biiig samba on surface).
But, this new info on him... amazing!

[rigdvr]

[quote]Originally posted by efattah
[ Rudi also said that he once watched over Ravelo on a deep spearfishing dive where Ravelo shot a 200lb+ grouper from 20 feet away at 53m / 175ft, using a pneumatic speargun.

Thats quite an accompilshment...I'd like to know what model pnuemo has that kind of effective range...especially at that depth...especially on that fish...hhmmmm

[Erik]

Maybe it was that CANNON that Iya posted a while back!
I wouldn't want to fight that fish all the way back up.
Cheers,
Erik Y.

[ivan]

hi

This guy Ravelo obvisouly has freakish abilities to be spearfishing at 175ft. Imagine his bottom time at a normal depth lets say 20m.

Cheers

[rigdvr]

Erik...there is a big difference between IYA's powered up band gun and a pnuematic gun at depth...somethings not right. The depth in itself is highly amazing however.

[MaxDream]

Hi,

I am very impressed with the results Karl has achieved in static.

When you talk about ventilation time do you mean the complete recovering time before another apnea or is it just the time you are breathing more intensely than normal to prepare for the next dive (hyperventilation)?

If it is the total recovering time before another apnea then I think it's very fast to recover from a 7'30'' dive for only 2' to do a 7'50'' right afterwards.

How often do you train?
How long is the total time of your training session?
How stable are your 8' dives? Are you able to do 8' every training session?
Do you always train without a wetsuit?

-maxdream

[fpernett]

Hi Max,
I will translate the questions to my brother to get a first hand answer.