Static PB's

[fpernett]

"I made 3 minutes interval between apneas

This is my routins:

Walk 15 mins. from home to the pool. Take off my clothes and start the warming up:

1 min 30 scs of ventilation and 2 min 30 sec (at least...but sometimes 3')

1 min 30 sec of ventilation and 3min 30 sec (at least...but sometimes 4')

Thats the 10 mins. of warming up

Start static without packing this way:

3 mins. of ventilation, and apnea:

At least 5 min 30 sec

3 mins. ventilation

At least 6 min 30 sec of apnea

3 mins. ventilation

at least 7', at this moment I know I'm able to make 7'30"

Sometimes I try to start with a higher time, that mean try to make 7' from the beginning, but that depends on the day.

After this I started the packing, for 3 minutes y pack every 25 secs. for adaptation and start with 7' or more in the next two I don't make the "packing warm up"
All my respiration is moving out my belly, always breathe using the diafragm. The ventilation cycle sometimes goes beyond 24 for min., but sometimes just make 12...that depends on how I feel, you can change the cycle ventilation but don't the target for that day.

When I start the training is daily,when I'm preparing for a goal. There was an ocassion when I made 2 weeks of 3 statics a day, with 4 mins. interval, without packing , and I keep my level. So you can sustain your level.
In my last training (for the nationals) I made all my statics over 7 min 50 sec, but in the last 2 I made it over 8', I stopped there because I get really anxious. Every has to train his own ritual.
Not always I train without wetsuit, I train without it to make it hard and get better concentration, but sometimes I have to use it.

My training last 2-3 hours, at the end I made some exercises"

That's all the translation

[hydro]

Originally posted by fpernett

In my last training (for the nationals) I made all my statics over 7 min 50 sec, but in the last 2 I made it over 8', I stopped there because I get really anxious.

!!!
?Do you know what is the world record in static?

[fpernett]

My last post was a translation of my brother's words.
Yes, He knows what is the world record

[BatRay]

I have a new pb - several days after my 2:34, I reached 2:43, 2:48, and my latest: 3:00.

Not too bad, I think, to go from 1:15 to 3:00 in about 2 weeks.

So what is the world record in static?

[3.14]

Originally posted by efattah
Exhale PB's:

Full exhale (0ft): 2'50

I was looking at this thread to see what people do exhaled. I only found this single time.

Myself, I am an absolute beginner (training since end of October). My PBs are 3:10 and 1:47 exhaled.

I like the latter better, they don't get boring;-)

pi

[O'Boy]

My new pb's from the last week are :

5:44 dry INS
2:10 full exhaled dry (part of excercise for INS)
4:15 wet INS (my first competition)

[ivan]

hi Guys

You should be posting your static pbs in Eriks Static challenge thread it is a never ending static duel.

Bat ray the world record static is 8:06 by Martin S

cheers

[MaxDream]

Today was my first static training in two weeks and I managed a new pb of 7'13''.

Here is a description of my ~60-minute training session:
- 1'00'' static (just to relax)
- 1' recovery and preparation
- 3'00'' static (first contraction at 2'50'')
- 1' recovery and preparation
- 4'00'' static (first contraction at 3'11'')
- 3' recovery and preparation
- 5'01'' (first contraction at 4'20'')
- 3' recovery and preparation
- 6'00'' (first contraction at 5'10'')
- 4' recovery and preparation
- 7'13'' (first contraction at 5'30'')
- ~5' recovery and preparation
- 6'30'' (first contraction at 5'10'')
- ~5' recovery and preparation
- 6'49''(first contraction at 5'25'')

-maxdream

[ivan]

hi

wow on your 7:13 hold you didnt get contractions until 5:30 thats hella impressive.

cheers

[efattah]

Ivan,

Getting contractions late isn't necessarily good. The latest I ever got contractions was 6'43, but at 7'00 I was almost blacking out. I feel much better at 7'00 when I get contractions around 5'45 to 6'00.

Of course, Martin Stepanek gets contractions at 4'00 - 4'20 and goes til 8'00+, so he is the ultimate example that late contractions are not necessarily good. I think Martin said he got 72 contractions on his 8'06 record. My friend Tyler got 110 contractions on a 6'30 (first contraction 3'00).

Eric Fattah
BC, Canada

[Alun]

My best statics have been done with late contractions. they started at about 6'30" and i lasted over another minute. contractions are of course muscular contractions. your muscles use oxygen to contract. The more contractions you have, the more oxygen you'll use up and the shorter your statics will be. i really can't see how contractions can possibly extend a static?

having late contractions doesn't mean hyperventilating though!!! for Martin Stepnaek's case: if he resisted his contractions until much later then perhaps he would be doing 9min+ statics instead of 8min! the fact that he gets them early and happens to be the WR holder tells us nothing about how to deal with contractions.

[Ben Gowland]

Just to add to Alun's comments:

I can see nothing but benefit from late contractions, PER SE, but (as Alun and Eric say) late contractions are usually due to excessive hypocapnia (too low blood CO2) at the start of the apnea, and this low CO2 restricts the dilation of cranial arteries, thus leaving a lower bloodflow in the brain despite increasing hypoxia.

The key to this must be ceasing the contractions, whilst allowing the blood to be hypercapnic.

Time for all the mind-over body people to step in and lend advice.

i could do with some - I get contractions at 2:30 and carry on with them for another 3 minutes - hence why breatholding is not my cup of tea!

[MaxDream]

I have late contraction because I hyperventilate slightly. Although I get my first contractions at 5'30'' sometimes I still feel the lack of oxygen before, maybe at 4'30''. That's about the time I would get the first contraction without hyperventilation when I'm prepared for a long atempt.

I copied some of this technique from Herbert during our static training in Hawaii. He did a dive where he got his first contraction at 6'45'' but couldn't manage to do more than 7'35''. He hyperventilates extensively.

Hubert Maier is like Martin Stepanek fighting a lot during static. In his last conpetition static dive Hubert got his first contraction at 3'30'' but still did 7'02''.

So in the end everybody has to find his/her very own ritual of static apnea.

-maxdream

[efattah]

I have done extensive tests with contractions & O2 consumption. The results of my experiments are clear:

1. While getting contractions, you consume LESS OXYGEN than while NOT getting contractions.

This is why Martin always tried to get contractions as SOON AS POSSIBLE!!

I will give an example. If I hyperventilate and then do a static, I reach 5'00 without even being close to a contraction, and according to the oximeter my SaO2 is 82% (very consistent and repeatable). In this case I would start at around 100% or 99%.

If, however, I take just 2 BREATHS (!!), and then pack the same amount, then I get my first contraction at 3'30 (and at the start I would be at SaO2 = 98%). Then, by the time I have reached 5'00, I have been getting contractions for 1'30, but my SaO2 is 90%, which is far higher than 82%, due to the nonlinear progression of this curve (even though I started off at a lower SaO2 in the beginning). Similarly, when I reach 6'00, my SaO2 is much higher if I got my first contraction at 3'30 rather than at 5'30 - 6'00.

By not hyperventilating, your CO2 is much higher, and the high CO2 drops your metabolic rate so much that it makes up for the muscular effort of the contraction. Plus, the CO2 stimulates the vagus nerve and drops your heart rate along with your metabolic rate.

When I did my pb of 7'35, I think I was at SaO2 = 84% at 5'00 (this was with hyperventilating). When I take just 2 or 3 breaths, then I'm at 90% after 5'00, which means, in theory, that I could far surpass my pb; the problem is always that after 6'00 - 6'10 (without hyperventilating), my CO2 goes over 9.2% and I cannot hold my breath anymore, and I must exhale. Martin, however, managed to continue holding his breath despite CO2 > 9.2% (he probably went over 10%). After CO2 = 9.0%, I start to get CO2 narcosis, even during dry statics!

Eric Fattah
BC, Canada

[ivan]

hi amazing info

Eric if you delayed contractions to 6:43 and stopped your apnea there when you get your first. Your time would still be huge but in the comfort of not having to fight any contractions.

Come to think of it you can sit there for 6:43 without even fighting a single contraction where the average person like me without hyperventilating stuggles to delay the first contraction for 2:15. Has Martin S ever tried lots of hyperventilation wonder what his times would be.

cheers