Free Diving Schools

[diveoceanos]

Originally Posted by Kimmo

Is this something to do with freediving or just diving for free because it is "Free Diving". I apologize my bad English

- kimmo

A nice one!

[diveoceanos]

Freediving is the correct term apparently. In Greek there is no single word for that. It is called "ελεύθερη κατάδυση", two words. I could have use a dash between the two words though. Free-Diving! I am quite sure though if you make a search over the internet with "free diving" you will not find any diving offer for free.

[Stavros]

Originally Posted by diveoceanos

Hmm! You are employing other tools now, eh Stavros? You are placing bets, becoming a bookmaker! And you are not lacking a sarcasm either! This is the attidute you want us to develop? Is this the attidute of an educator? Are those your values mate? Is this the leading by example attidute? You are a leader man, and as such person, I wish I could see you. But not like this! This is a degradation, officer!

Oceanos Hahahah... you never cease to amaze me...what are you on about now mate?

???bookmakers and educators and officers and blah blah blah... ???

I thought I would write a response to the above but I am off diving in a few minutes so I have better things to do...

(we are trying out the new liftabag and tank on the sled today this is going to be fun - by the way did I mention that I am off to Dahab on Sept 1st for two weeks with my G/F (Giota), William Winram, Fred Buyle, Christian Maldame and others for some {hopefully} deep diving? Maybe I should start a thread )

Cheers Everybody and Keeep Having fun - Oceanos: Keep up the good fight!!!

[island_sands]

Have a good one Stavros and say hi to Lotta and Linda in Dahab as well.

Originally Posted by Stavros

Oceanos Hahahah... you never cease to amaze me...what are you on about now mate?

???bookmakers and educators and officers and blah blah blah... ???

I thought I would write a response to the above but I am off diving in a few minutes so I have better things to do...

(we are trying out the new liftabag and tank on the sled today this is going to be fun - by the way did I mention that I am off to Dahab on Sept 1st for two weeks with my G/F (Giota), William Winram, Fred Buyle, Christian Maldame and others for some {hopefully} deep diving? Maybe I should start a thread )

Cheers Everybody and Keeep Having fun - Oceanos: Keep up the good fight!!!

[diveoceanos]

Originally Posted by Stavros

Oceanos Hahahah... you never cease to amaze me...what are you on about now mate?

???bookmakers and educators and officers and blah blah blah... ???

I thought I would write a response to the above but I am off diving in a few minutes so I have better things to do...

(we are trying out the new liftabag and tank on the sled today this is going to be fun - by the way did I mention that I am off to Dahab on Sept 1st for two weeks with my G/F (Giota), William Winram, Fred Buyle, Christian Maldame and others for some {hopefully} deep diving? Maybe I should start a thread )

Cheers Everybody and Keeep Having fun - Oceanos: Keep up the good fight!!!

Have a nice trip, and have fun!

[Nikkey]

No thanks Starvos, I don't gamble . I am just saying there is no need for bickering (from both sides) over a new company. This is generally a peaceful forum.
If they do have scuba instructors unqualified in freediving teaching freediving, no one will take the course therefore the company would fail, oh well. I wouldn't take a course on sky diving from a bungee jumper.
But I do not see why anyone would waste their time and money making a new company and not have qualified instructors.

[harbour seal]

Originally Posted by Nikkey

But I do not see why anyone would waste their time and money making a new company and not have qualified instructors.

nikkey,

hey there fellow west-coaster, i think i see what you are saying.

but "qualified", as in how? what if you qualify yourself, does that count?

on the whole, not a black and white issue, rather somewhat of a spectrum; what shade of grey is "self-qualified"?

cheers,
sean
vancouver, canada

[ADR]

Nikkey - Unfortunately the public are not educated enough to make a good judgement call on freediving qualifications. A local dive shop could easily pass themselves off as a centre of excellence for freediving tuition. I do however applaud your attempt to keep the peace

Oceanos - PFI have been running a long term program of Tuition and research in conjunction with a University in Canada, so unfortunately there nothing original in your approach on that front. Perhaps you should contact them and pool resources - pun absolutely intended

[ADR]

For those interested, here is the website that has a striking resemblance in name and logo. Hopefully in posting this it will remove some of the mystery one way or another around this DB member.

Okeanos

[diveoceanos]

Originally Posted by ADR

For those interested, here is the website that has a striking resemblance in name and logo. Hopefully in posting this it will remove some of the mystery one way or another around this DB member.

Okeanos

I can not see your point. Trying to find out who I am? That is my company's website. And what is the mystery you are talking about? BTW the website developed 4 years ago and since then never been updated. My webmaster is lost somewhere in space.

If you are really interested to know who I am then ask directly. This would have safe you some time.

Behind everyone's actions there is a motive, a driving force. I am always trying to understand why everyone behaves like he does, and I am trying to give them credit. Struggling to find out what your objective could possibly be. Is it about caring about other people safety? Is it about fighting against clawn instructors? Do you think we are so stupid to kill people or ignorant to put someone under risk? If you really believe that then speak it out. Do not play Scherlok, uncovering the "big mystery" of who is diveoceanos.

In addition I find it unlikely that you have any valid information on who are the members of my team. Highly unlikely! Then you are fighting against something you don't even know? Perhaps this is a reaction, based on your previous experiences. But, alas, do not judge before you have the complete picture. Did I try any personal attack? No. Do you think this is a fare treatment? It is not fair. What's next ADR? What is the next "secret" you are about to uncover?

If you ever had the chance to come to Cyprus you would have the chance to get to know us. Then you would have the right to judge who we are and spit on us if you want.

I feel this is a waste of my time and energy, but you are engaging in amazingly extreme methods to support your point.

[diveoceanos]

Originally Posted by ADR

Nikkey - Unfortunately the public are not educated enough to make a good judgement call on freediving qualifications. A local dive shop could easily pass themselves off as a centre of excellence for freediving tuition.

I would propose then, that you go ahead and define your evaluation criteria on how to make good judgement on freediving qualifications. Specifically please. I am not aware of any local dive shop that passed themselves as a centre of excellence for freediving tuition. Any examples?

The individuals in my team are highly respected among the people who know them. Hyperbaric Medicine qualifications, train other people for competitions, 37 years of experience (they can tell you the history of freediving from first hand), two of the members of the team are among the top performers locally. All highly respected individuals in their fields. And believe me they have spent much more hours in the sea than the average.

[ADR]

Originally Posted by diveoceanos

If you are really interested to know who I am then ask directly. This would have safe you some time.

Fair point and perhaps I missed it in a previous post, so thanks for the offer. Please do let me know,
- Who are you?
- Who are the Freediver Instructors involved in your project?

BTW - I'm Andy Ross from Sydney Australia ....not that that is any new news for this forum

[Stavros]

Dear Sotos (Diveoceanos),
one of the most annoying things you can do in a forum (especially one of a tight community like the freediving community) is to remain anonymous...
You come into the DB community stating that you are an expert in this field and that field without stating your name - you state that you have behind you a team of experts and top athletes without stating their names either...(newsflash - almost all freediving experts and top athletes are already members of the DB community and they all put their name under what they say)


I am sorry but you are just handling this all wrong and then you are surprised why people do not trust you and are apprehensive towards you... (think about it)

Cheers Stavros (Kastrinakis :P )

PS. Sled dive went great - the new setup and liftbag worked like a charm - 1,6m/s decent - 2,5m/s accent... 65m dive in 1:20 (we just stopped as it was getting too dark and cold down there - we dove at 20:30 and the sun was already very low in the sky...what a sight)

[Almostafish]

Oh what fun! We all know what a small world freediving is and recommendations come from mutual respect and word of mouth.. By now I would suspect that most of the freediving/spearo world will be having a good laugh about this and for all the effort Diveoceanos will go to " Improve " a course that he has no access or real understanding of, it will prove fruitless. No custom no point.

No one with any sense will attend...

Would you go to a party run by nuns? Thats the no sex/booze religious kind of nun by the way..

On the other hand his bunch of merry men may have a moment of clarity and discover an aspect of human physiology that revolutionizes the way we live and allow us all to follow the sperm whales..

Just my sarcastic,opinionated,arrogant 2 cents.

[Almostafish]

Oh sorry!

Bryn Spencer
AIDA instructor