Go Back   DeeperBlue Forums > Freediving > General Freediving

Notices

General Freediving General discussion on Freediving.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1  
Old March 1st, 2005
Farmer Mat's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Switzerland
Posts: 61
Rep Power: 6
Farmer Mat balanced
Send a message via MSN to Farmer Mat
looking for notations of statics...

hi together,
once again i`m looking for some information for my work...
Does anyone have or knows where i can get some notations of the heartbeat during a dry/wet static apnea excercise?
I have a book but theres only one example in it...
I`d really like or even have to compare my results with others...
And those anyone worked ever with a capnograph and has some results now?
Well i heard that a some worldclass freedivers made some medical test, but i don`t know where to search these... - please help me if you can...

Maybe you can refer myself to someone who can maybe help me...

looking for your bright answers!
regards
Mat
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old March 1st, 2005
Supporter
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Sarasota, Fla
Posts: 1,528
Rep Power: 151
cdavis no shame in showing off that warm and fuzzy reputationcdavis no shame in showing off that warm and fuzzy reputationcdavis no shame in showing off that warm and fuzzy reputationcdavis no shame in showing off that warm and fuzzy reputationcdavis no shame in showing off that warm and fuzzy reputationcdavis no shame in showing off that warm and fuzzy reputationcdavis no shame in showing off that warm and fuzzy reputationcdavis no shame in showing off that warm and fuzzy reputationcdavis no shame in showing off that warm and fuzzy reputationcdavis no shame in showing off that warm and fuzzy reputationcdavis no shame in showing off that warm and fuzzy reputation
Re: looking for notations of statics...

Hi Mat,

There has been quite a lot posted on these forums. It may take a while, but the search button should give you a ton of data.

Connor
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old March 1st, 2005
Panos Lianos's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Athens, Greece
Posts: 152
Rep Power: 8
Panos Lianos is on a distinguished roadPanos Lianos is on a distinguished roadPanos Lianos is on a distinguished roadPanos Lianos is on a distinguished road
Re: looking for notations of statics...

We have recently done an experiment on this, as part of a friends final project for his degree in physical education. Since the results might be published, I'm not sure I can send data to you. The best thing to do is to send an email directly to him and see if he can send them to you.
George Georgas: delfinos2000atyahoo.com

If he can't send them (something you shouldn't take personaly as these might be published), then I can tell you now that on average, heart rate starts falling right after the start of apnea and reaches a minimum heart rate at around 50% of the total apnea time (for example at around 3minutes on a 6min hold) and stays around the minimum (or falls just a little more) until a few seconds before the end of the hold.
__________________
Panos Lianos
Athens, Greece
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old March 1st, 2005
Farmer Mat's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Switzerland
Posts: 61
Rep Power: 6
Farmer Mat balanced
Send a message via MSN to Farmer Mat
Re: looking for notations of statics...

hi connor,
your right about the stuff in the forum - a lot has been written about heartbeats during statics and all that stuff...
But the mostly they talk about the beginning and the end of static and no declarations of the circumstances...
I will do again some research tomorow and i will post a table of my heartbeat during a 4:20 dry static, so you may know what i`m looking for...
But first of all i will do more research
greets and good night
Mat
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old March 2nd, 2005
immerlustig's Avatar
BlueSkunk
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: egypt, austria, greece, spain
Posts: 594
Rep Power: 28
immerlustig has a spectacular auraimmerlustig has a spectacular auraimmerlustig has a spectacular auraimmerlustig has a spectacular auraimmerlustig has a spectacular auraimmerlustig has a spectacular auraimmerlustig has a spectacular auraimmerlustig has a spectacular auraimmerlustig has a spectacular auraimmerlustig has a spectacular auraimmerlustig has a spectacular aura
Send a message via ICQ to immerlustig Send a message via Skype™ to immerlustig
Re: looking for notations of statics...

hi
i use a polar for a while now and my hr during maximum statics is usually 55-58bpm at the beginning, then it drops to 40-42 shortly after and stays around there until the beginning of contractions, then it drops to around 30bpm. it might be even a bit lower, but i found out that the polar doesn't show anything below 30. i haven't noticed an increase of hr before the end. after the static hr quickly goes up to around 70-75bpm. within 1.5-2 minutes hr is back at 55-60.

also after the static it takes quite a while until my legs feel ok again. vasoconstriction is really strong.

regards

roland
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old March 2nd, 2005
loopy's Avatar
Deeper Blue Hypoxyphiliac
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 719
Rep Power: 15
loopy will become famous soon enoughloopy will become famous soon enoughloopy will become famous soon enoughloopy will become famous soon enoughloopy will become famous soon enoughloopy will become famous soon enoughloopy will become famous soon enough
Send a message via ICQ to loopy Send a message via AIM to loopy Send a message via Yahoo to loopy
Re: looking for notations of statics...

Check out the deep and free section at www.spearfishing.com.au - Wal posted graphs of heart rate/s02% over two statics, one inhale one exhale.

Cheers,


Brad
__________________
Imagination is more important than knowledge - Albert Einstein
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old March 2nd, 2005
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Southern California
Posts: 93
Rep Power: 6
IronLung is on a distinguished roadIronLung is on a distinguished road
Send a message via AIM to IronLung
Re: looking for notations of statics...

Wow, very neat! Thanks for showing us that link Brad.

Ike
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old March 2nd, 2005
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Tampere, Finland
Posts: 1,162
Rep Power: 65
jome has huge tracts of reputationjome has huge tracts of reputationjome has huge tracts of reputationjome has huge tracts of reputationjome has huge tracts of reputationjome has huge tracts of reputationjome has huge tracts of reputationjome has huge tracts of reputationjome has huge tracts of reputationjome has huge tracts of reputationjome has huge tracts of reputation
Send a message via MSN to jome Send a message via Skype™ to jome
Re: looking for notations of statics...

One thing is very clear on Wal's graph. His heart rate plummets right after contractions start. Seems to support the "no warmup" school of thought...
__________________
Simo K
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old March 2nd, 2005
commonerg's Avatar
Half Man, Half Chlorine
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Atlanta, Ga
Posts: 168
Rep Power: 7
commonerg is on a distinguished roadcommonerg is on a distinguished roadcommonerg is on a distinguished road
Send a message via ICQ to commonerg Send a message via AIM to commonerg
Re: looking for notations of statics...

I posted a BPM+SaO2 graph of an exhale static table on my webpage (link in my profile). I would be happy to send you some more if you need them, just e-mail me and tell me what you are specifically looking for.

I am looking forward to hearing more about this study.
__________________



GTFREE
Atlanta


Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old March 2nd, 2005
glennv's Avatar
hybrid lifeform
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Amsterdam , Netherlands
Posts: 354
Rep Power: 19
glennv has legions of little leprechauns trying to steal that reputationglennv has legions of little leprechauns trying to steal that reputationglennv has legions of little leprechauns trying to steal that reputationglennv has legions of little leprechauns trying to steal that reputationglennv has legions of little leprechauns trying to steal that reputationglennv has legions of little leprechauns trying to steal that reputationglennv has legions of little leprechauns trying to steal that reputationglennv has legions of little leprechauns trying to steal that reputationglennv has legions of little leprechauns trying to steal that reputationglennv has legions of little leprechauns trying to steal that reputation
Re: looking for notations of statics...

Here another curve from when i did measurements in this area.
http://www.glennvenghaus.com/freediv...tic_O2_BPM.php
__________________
Greet,

GlennV
Apnea Team Amsterdam / ATA forum
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old March 2nd, 2005
Farmer Mat's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Switzerland
Posts: 61
Rep Power: 6
Farmer Mat balanced
Send a message via MSN to Farmer Mat
Great

hi,
first of all i`d like to thank everybody - that was exactly what i`m looking for...
My graphs look more or less the same - i am really happy about that - but i start with a pulse of about 55 then it increases within 30 seconds to 75 and decreases when the contractions start... and i end up with about 50 bpm - i think i dont have enough time to let my heartbeat fall to 40 and less...
I will do some statics with my head under water - i`m interested in the differences...
and i will show you my results in two month, when my studies should be finished...
A quiet interesting point, maybe not very suprising was a static when i suffered from a cold - shame on me - but my heartbeat was between 90 and 95 during the hold and i ended up with 65 and i never ever felt such hard contractions...
So never do any excercises when you`re not feeling good in anyway...

Regards
Mat
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


All times are GMT. The time now is 17:24.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0
ISSN 1469-865X | Copyright 1996 - 2008 deeperblue.net limited.
Ad Management by RedTyger