What kinda of Conditioner

[Fondueset]

It may just be the only product anyone will ever need!

[BladeRunner]

Originally Posted by Bill McIntyre

This stuff is scent free and works well for me.

http://www.unicure.com/

Which do they get the Shampoo or the Conditioner?

[Bill McIntyre]

Originally Posted by BladeRunner

Which do they get the Shampoo or the Conditioner?

I get the conditioner, and that's what they got too.

[rcerdena]

Just get into your wetsuit using water only! It's a matter of practice.

Cheers,

Roberto

[Fondueset]

I've tried this with my 5mil suit - it can be done but is pretty rough on the suit. If you are talking about putting the suit on in the water - it's currently about 4c.

[Mr. X]

Originally Posted by BladeRunner

What kinda of conditioner does everyone use to lube there open cell suits with that Doesn't damage the Glued seams or the suit material? I thought about just using an organic conditioner from health food store that doesn't have a lot of additives in it. what do you guys think?

Organic conditioner sounds like a good idea. I picked up 0.5litres (about a pint) of Tesco's el cheapo conditioner for 45p, as they didn't have any organic. All of their Conditioners were full of chemicals, so I picked the cheapest as it did not have formaldehyde, as some others did. In the UK, Waitrose is probably a good bet for finding organic stuff (their organic shower gel star fruit & kiwi smells great -- pity I left mine at the pool ...so back on the cheap Lidls stuff - never seem to loose them ).

So far I have only used a tiny bit -- you can dilute it a lot (maybe 50:1?), so it lasts forever...unfortunately .

[BladeRunner]

I plan on using it on my first smooth skin so I'm probly go with 50/50 to make sure I don't blow out the suit the first time out! I've decide to go with Mane n tail because I can find that with no problem where I live! They have it at Wally world and I drive right by a PetSmart when I go to work and they carry it aswell

[Mr. X]

Don't over do it ...I did first time & started foaming! It is also harder to clean out of the suit. Experiment. By all means go careful at first. I highly recommend reading the instructions* for donning & doffing a spearo wetsuit on the Eliossub wetsuit site -- it might save you a nasty tear, injury or suffocation!

*Harder to find that I expected: http://www.eliossub.com/html/en_vestizione.html
Head first, then lift up not down!

[BladeRunner]

This is my first smooth skin, I own and use a number of Picasso suits so this isn't my first opencell suit. I tried to find the instruction on Eliossub webpage but can not find it now. I plan on mixing it in a spray bottle so I can control how much I spray on the suit. I just heard horror stories that I would like to avoid!

[Mr. X]

I just added the link above -- had to use google to track it down...they prob. lost the link from the site. I use a spray bottle too -- but, even if you add hot water out of a flask -- it goes on cold because of the atomizing effect of the spray (I believe this is how refridgerators cool). Its good enough though. I usually pour some warm (not hot) lube down the arms, legs first & hood first. Sprays are a bit too fine & cold -- pouring from a bottle is wasteful & can be too hot. Something in between might be better. I am wondering if a squirty bottle (like the old washing up liquid bottles) might work better than the spray?

I notice women (esp. older ladys) often stop when I start lubing up...and they go on about dirty old men!

[Spam]

Originally Posted by Mr. X

I notice women (esp. older ladys) often stop when I start lubing up...and they go on about dirty old men!

You lube yourself with a spray? Try putting the lube in the suit before you pack it into the car, that way there's no standing about freezing your nah nah's off while you spray yourself, out of the car and suited up inside a couple of minutes

[BladeRunner]

LOL I just get weird looks from the RedNecks when I start putting on my suit. When I start pulling on the suit over my head I think I can hear a Banjo playing and get real scared!! LOL

[Spam]

Originally Posted by BladeRunner

LOL I just get weird looks from the RedNecks when I start putting on my suit. When I start pulling on the suit over my head I think I can hear a Banjo playing and get real scared!! LOL

Its these guy's I would worry about!!

[BladeRunner]

Looking at the Elliossub webpage I've been putting my suit on wrong. I getting the arm part all wrong and i think I've been stressing my suit to much when putting on hood. I need work on that or my smooth skin won't have very long life!

Yeah those look like the guys I see. I work with a lot of those types and they know I do this strange freediving stuff but say nothing about lubing up my suit to get one. LOL

[Mr. X]

Originally Posted by BladeRunner

LOL I just get weird looks from the RedNecks when I start putting on my suit. When I start pulling on the suit over my head I think I can hear a Banjo playing and get real scared!! LOL

Do you have a priddy mowth? Squeel like a pig!

By the way, I read some other technique yesterday where they advocate getting both hands fully in the sleeves first. The Elios technique works though so I'll stick with it.