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maybe it is time to consider incooperating backups into the NL system.
I attended one of Loics training sessions once ( a 125 meter dive) he had a 1-2 liter bottle sewn into his suit (inflateable). I wonder if he had it this time.

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As a french spearfisher, I'm very saddened by the death of Loic. Even if i'm not a pure freediver Loic was an inspiration for a lot of us. I follow his performances for the last ten years and every time he was doing something amazing. Always well prapared and selfconscious, I've never thought that something like that could happend to him. I've never met him and unfortunatly never will.

Adieu Loic, my thoughts to his wife and two kids.

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I attended one of Loics training sessions once ( a 125 meter dive) he had a 1-2 liter bottle sewn into his suit (inflateable). I wonder if he had it this time.
As I read this thread I thought the same thing. A simple inflatable vest would have done the trick.
The big problem is that Loic (I read in an interview) did not like to use safety divers as he felt that endangering another person by having them cive to 600ft on mixed gas was not worth the risk.
Still it sounds like a simple scuba diver would have made a difference.
Its just so sad.
I don't think banning No Limits is the answer as people will still attempt it whether its "official" or not.
Its obvious now that the counterweight system is flawed and a new safety system needs to be designed to do these deep dives safely.
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Thank you Guillaume for your post - our thoughts are with you and the team.

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As I read this thread I thought the same thing. A simple inflatable vest would have done the trick
I agree. Technology is not being used at all as a safety measure.. a vest, remotely or manually activated, surface electronic progress monitoring (I'm not talking about looking at a watch here) and we have saved at least two lives.

Cars have airbags, there are explosive bolts to release fixings etc. I guess it comes down to cost as Eric mentioned.

Material for a separate thread I think.
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My deepest condolences for Valerie&kids, Claude, Cedric, Guillaume, Chris and to the rest of the Cipa team.

Iīm so sorry and speechless...

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Sometimes it's just better to shut up and watch...
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our condolences to family and friends from the crew in Portugal, even do we didnīt meet him for us he always be a reference

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I think maybe it is time we'd start think of NL dives the same as skydiving, in the sense that once the diver is down he depends on equipment to keep him alive.
Skydivers have an backup parachute, maybe it is time to consider incooperating backups into the NL system.
It is more complicated as the diver will in many cases be too narced to do anything out of the ordinary if equipment fails.
Maybe a combination of floatation vest and counterballast/float-on-sled that are always activated should be the unofficial accepted minimum for NL dives beyond a certain depth.
I think both the vest developed by Terry Maas or the safety belt developed by Zeagle Systems, with a few adjustments, can be used to make a "safety backpack" for deep free dives. But I also believe that AIDA should follow the example of CMAS and stop recognizing "no limits" record attempts. That will not stop people for trying, but at least it will remove an incentive for doing it, and maybe encourage divers to compete in less dangerous disciplines. The elimination of the sled will drastically limit the depth and therefore facilitate the work of safety divers, IMHO.
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I just learn about Loic. It is very tragic.
My deepest condolences to his wife and friends.
I have never knew him, but from everybody's description, Loic was very dedicated to freediving community.
In time we might learn more about what happend down there, but that knowleage will not change past events.
Perhaps the best way to honor Loic is to do, what he loved - freedive....
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Horrible news - peace and love to all who celebrated life with Loic. He will be missed, indeed (thanks Jorg).

Thanks, Guillame, for sharing with us.

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Re-reading my article and Loic's words makes me smile, cringe a little and sad to have lost such a gentleman. I remember our phone conversation well.

I didn't know him personally, met him only once, but I have learned a lot from his "profil bas" philosophy. I hope others do, too.

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I have not yet heard of a memorial service for Loic. I have tried to contact Guillaume but, I am sure he has his mind on other things than email at the moment. (It was wonderful, actually, for him to take the time to give us further information on the accident). Does anybody else happen to know time/location for a memorial service (if, indeed, there will be one).

Also, others have mentioned it, but I will also repeat the request, if anyone knows of any memorial funds set up for Valerie and the kids.

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