83 Cnf - New Wr

[daveking]

And Niki!! ( didn't read it all ) littlefreediver count yourself lucky that you live out there!!

[JAN 1974]

83M CNF-NEW WR VIDEO

http://divefit.com/nastaveni/video/W...%20low%20q.wmv

[Waterysmile]

Where's the record gone on the AIDA website?

[Stavros]

Hmmm there is a little (BIG) thing I noticed when I watched the video in the morning... there is no tag... no tag = big problem...

Will have to wait and see.

Stavros

[sheepeck]

Oh, yes - you are right.

[juka]

http://www.hotweb.se/aspportal1/scripts/v5.3a-eng.pdf

6.3.2 Signal arrangement:
6.3.2.1 For constant weight, constant weight without fins and free immersion, one or several signals will be
placed at the anticipated depth of the record attempt bearing a number corresponding to the depth in
meters and signed by the International AIDA Judges on the day of the attempt.
The following submissions will be used to witness the performance:
· the freediver bringing up a marker ("depth tag") previously signed by the 2 International Judges.
AND
· a video recording on a new videocassette of the capture of the marker by a camera secured at the
anticipated depth, signed by the 2 International Judges prior to its immersion.
However, in free immersion and in constant weight without fins, it is permissible to touch only the end
plate by hand without taking the marker.

[sheepeck]

Yes - I just found this:

If the athlete does not bring up the tag, the official depth device serves to measure the performance.

http://www.hotweb.se/aspportal1/scripts/v11.2-eng.pdf

[shoutatthesky]

He almost make it look easy- though I am sure it is not!
Here is the higher quality version http://divefit.com/nastaveni/video/W...20best%20q.wmv

[Nitas]

I think, there is a problem:

APPENDIX TO AIDA REGULATION FOR THE RECOGNITION OF RECORDS V5.3A, (30.11.2003) AND AIDA COMPETITIONS REGULATIONS V11.2 (16.06.2006):

“In every point where the text is different concerning the performance of the
specific discipline, the competition rules v11.2 are the rules to be followed.”


REGULATIONS FOR INTERNATIONAL FREEDIVING COMPETITIONS VERSION 11.2 (2006.16.02 AIDA/PV):

“3.13
The athlete must bring a tag up to the surface and deliver it to a member of the jury. (…) In an event without fins, the tag must have a wrist/arm-ring which allows the athlete to use his/her hands, or a complete Velcro system so the freediver can attach the tag on him/her.”

“3.16
Depth measurement:
• (…) a penalty is applied if the athlete doesn‘t bring the tag”

“7.2
No results which include penalties can be accepted as a World and/or National Record”

Tomek Nitka

[shoutatthesky]

This certainly is an interesting situation! Martin looked quite capable of bringing up a tag given the manner in which he touched the bottom plate. So it looks like a void performance to me.
The question is how could such an outstanding freediver miss such an important detail? And will he make another properly? Is there still time?

[watts]

Any news on constant? 113?

[laminar]

Let's leave it to the AIDA judges on scene to figure this out.

[shoutatthesky]

Are we allowed to discuss it Laminar? Can we form an opinion of our own? Of course it is the judges decision at the end of the day!
I thought we were here to keep informed and to be educated? Surely part of that process is debate - healthy debate????

[laminar]

Originally Posted by shoutatthesky

Are we allowed to discuss it Laminar? Can we form an opinion of our own? Of course it is the judges decision at the end of the day!
I thought we were here to keep informed and to be educated? Surely part of that process is debate - healthy debate????

Yeah, you're right, Southatthesky. I wasn't intending to close down the debate. Nor was I trying to suggest that no one should speculate. I don't think I ever have tried to do that in the threads on DB.

It wasn't me who actually posted. It was an imposter. A late night or mid-afternoon version of myself. Terse and ambiguous.

Sorry, now I'm just put more toes in my mouth. I'm tired.

I just would find it believe that Martin would make such an error and the judges would let it go, too. Maybe they did!

I know that several world records attempts in FI and CNF have been done without tags as have National records. Perhaps this is a new amendment?

Bill?

Peter

[shoutatthesky]

I still love ya pete - even if when your tired your grammar goes haywire and your doppelganger shows up to put toes in your mouth