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#1
February 13th, 2008
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Just a quickie...
NOTE: His -112m dive is included at 2min into the interview............ If you look closely you can see his HyRS on decent; another first for Herbert, everybody will be using them in 2008. Any translations out there?????  )MIG Last edited by MIG; February 13th, 2008 at 00:10. Reason: HyRS comment 
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#3
February 13th, 2008
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It holds his arms in a Hydrodynamic position, whilst allowing him to relax his shoulders... (Essential to equalise)  MIG
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#4
February 13th, 2008
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Mr Mig
This guy is crayz. he born in belgium .. no ocean....no sea.. he can jump into the water and dive to below -200m and hold his breath over 9+ i would like to offer him a bottle of wine  Reason maybe ..i am not sure.. he born in a very cold area or close to mountain.. and he has high degree of Hemoglobin.., People think O2 important but i think hemoglobin is important than O2 .. let say.take off from blood all hemeglobin(?) how can O2 caried out? you have info about this person which part of belgium comes?
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Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero! Last edited by SEDATE; February 13th, 2008 at 11:03.
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#5
February 13th, 2008
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Sedate, you are probably confusing Herbert Nitsch with Fred Buyle, who is indeed somehow physically resembling Herbert, and who is from Belgium. Herbert is from Austria. Or perhaps you are confusing Belgium and Austria - Austria is indeed a landlocked country with high mountains, while Belgium is a relatively very flat land and it does have access to the sea.
Last edited by trux; February 13th, 2008 at 11:22.
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#6
February 13th, 2008
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Opps.. So sorry...i think i typed wrong Trux.. i wanted to say Austria....
Meanwhile i try to read all your post as much as i can.. you are like Googe Earth in freediving Trux.. Meanwhile To type something in english always look at my very old dictonary.. some papers are missed but works.. i wish i would type english like you, too all my messages are edited like this! . one day PAPA will delete me from DB. net..anyway
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Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero! Last edited by SEDATE; February 13th, 2008 at 11:36.
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#8
February 14th, 2008
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 )MIG Last edited by MIG; February 14th, 2008 at 10:18.
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#9
February 15th, 2008
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Thanks MIG.
I can't find any information out there, though. Anyone have a better pic? How does it work? I just don't get the principle...
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#10
February 15th, 2008
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I think it's just a rubberband around the lower of your butt, and you stick your thumbs into the band to keep your arms stretched at the sides, without you needing to spend energy keeping them there.
This technique doesn't necessarily work for everyone, not everyone go their deepest with the arms at the sides. Nitsch wears a lot of weight compared to most, 'cause he prefers to drop all the way down in order to focus on equalizing alone, and then kick as hell going up. Most nowadays go deep with less weight focusing on perfect hydrodynamics with arms above their head, kicking both going down and up. Arms at the sides would not apply for them. Nitsch can get away with the other technique because he has this extensive breath hold, which gets stolen by keeping arms above his head. Anyway, that's what I think...
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#11
February 16th, 2008
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I think most of the deeper divers are using an arms-down posture now? Martin and Guillaume seem to be doing this in the most recent videos I've seen of them.
A similar system I was going to try in Egypt last year was a piece of velcro on the inside of each elbow to hold my arms in a streamlined posture. Never got round to doing it but might look at it again this year.
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#12
February 16th, 2008
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Sedate,
I think you ment Patrick Musimu, who is originally a boxer born in Congo (Africa). Patrick Musimu He did the 209,60 meters dive in June 2005 in Egypt. According to his site his pb static is 8 minutes 33 seconds. About the Hemoglobine and O2 question, you need both  but surely a high amount of hemaglobine is very benificial to freediving, and also to other sports Having the arms allong the side is indeed very relaxing, and it helps indeed with equalising. Personally I'm happy with the 1m/s speed, with this speed I can keep up with my *new*hands free equalisation. And I have trust that the relaxation will safe enough energy and O2 to compensate for the few extra seconds I gain over having my arms in front. But maybe I'll revert when I get more flexible in the shoulders and back. We'll see. Thanks for sharing the video! Love, Courage and water! Kars
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#13
February 16th, 2008
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Kars,
Thank you very much for information, Yes ..i think he was Patrick Musimu..i would have mixed. cheers,.
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#14
February 16th, 2008
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The idea of using velcro to allow relaxation of arms (in either arms up or arms down position) was invented by Sebastien Murat in 2001.
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