W. Trubridge: Cheating death in the deep

[chrismar]

Originally Posted by efattah

Perhaps Loic Leferme was thinking that... that he would wake up on the surface. Sadly he never woke up, despite the excellent safety team.

No Limits != Constant Weight

From what I've heard of Loic's final dive, I don't think he expected to wake up on the surface...

[Haydn]

Loic was the loveliest freediver I ever met. I bet he was calm throughout the experience and that calmness would have helped him and his safety team. The problem is that No Limits is a totally different problem when safety is concerned and in my way of thinking requires different safety procedures than just relying on surface freedivers. I believe Loics problems occurred prior to the period when the safety divers would have come out to play and at their most useful, they need to be looking into your eyes, not 50 meters away on a boat or waiting at -25. I have never seen any detailed reports though so I really dont know the details.

No Limits kills or seriously injures 50% of divers attempting or training for world records.

Herbert...Alive, Loic....Dead,Tanya....Alive, Audrey.....Dead, Benjamin seriously injured.
A whole bunch of people doing it and one by one they will step up to the mark and be counted.

[whucash]

This is the best discussion i ever red on deeperblue...When i'm reading it it gives me so much power...I mean when i hear all the stories about the fight with your own head its just amazing! This is the site of freediving that inspires me! That is why i forgot about the scuba..the mental side..the way you have to fight with yourself with your own limits...for me freediving isn't bitting world records its about bitting your own records..your own limits... Just wanted to tell what i feel Cheerse!

[efattah]

Sadly, Loic chose to dive 'blind', i.e. = no fluid goggles or vision equipment at all.

If he could have seen the cable or whatever it was, I strongly believe he would have reacted differently. As it was, he could have had no knowledge of what was going on. It is extremely unlikely he could see anything at all.

Similarly, Audrey also chose to dive blind, even though she had a pair of fluid goggles that she often used in the warm up.

[Kars]

Dave Mullins dives without goggles mask or uw lenses, just a noseclip. He claims to see enough for the things he needs to do in constant weight. I wonder why he chooses not wear fluid goggles?

In No-limitits things are more complicated, why they do NOT USE fluid goggles?

Do they blow off in the fast ride down or up?
Do these divers feel these are anoying or distracting, and or could they hinder equalisation?

Personaly I've tested fluid goggles only once in a small pool. I was amazed of the vision and field of vision it provided. To me it was almost like seeing with my normal eyes, but now also under water.
I still could dive 'blind', I just close my eyes, like I like to do in the glide phase.

Kars

[Mullins]

Originally Posted by Kars

I wonder why he chooses not wear fluid goggles?

Cost and simplicity. They're an expensive piece of gear that doesn't really improve performance, and I prefer to keep things simple if possible. However I might have to get some to use in the Bahamas as they would probably allow me to pick up a tag faster. That's really the only reason though.

[turtle]

Originally Posted by jome

But looking death into they eyes? Come on...Death doesn't have eyes to look at. It's just what happens when you stop living. No glory in it, just shutting down bodily functions. About as glorified as forgetting to fill the gas tank and getting stuck in the middle of nowhere.

Funny & also very true