Could you dive to the titanic?

[Jay Styron]

I think this originally was talking about freediving to the Titanic not scuba so equipment failure would be minimal. Not that I would want to try.
Jay

[mps798]

hi thin air . A not so smart (really) tries to answer
my dear friend liquit can not be pressurized , so , if there was that kind of liquit oxygen you discribe (might already be and used experimentally by ... let say ...... hmmmm us seals?- remember the mouse breathing in liquid oxygen in a lab ha? ) then , and taking in mind what you said perfect gas, the quantity and etc etc etc a diver could dive to that depth (all theoritical ) dont forget limbs contain liquid and liquit can not be pressurized . By the way , yes bones contain liquid , and yes there are and other places containing air (remember what happens in the toilet ) oooh yes and blood carrying oxygen to brain (what is this) so if all this was solved the diver probably would kill himself because of the long deco time he would had to made so , finally she or he would be dead either by killing himself or by getting old durring deco time ,hehehehehe

[mps798]

ooh and dont forget
warning dont try the deco time you need from the depth of titanic at home try it at your kitchen you might get hungry you know

just joking

hope you will find your answers

[tom yerian]

Originally Posted by Erik

Vince, assuming that somehow all the CNS problems could be dealt with and you dived filled with liquid, you would be fine. Water is not compressible (not to a degree that is noticeable). We are made of fluids, and would not be crushed.
I thought that some chamber experiments had been done to over 3000' with the resulting tremors and loss of control, but maybe I'm mistaken. I think it was a French Comm Dive company ?
Chers,
Erik Y.

The company is Comex, it is french commercial diving company, and they blew out I believe to two thousand ft. Using a hydrogen mix, and an 02% less than .04 %... Capt. Tom

[omega3]

The famous landmark dives made by Comex were the "Janus" series (ended 1977)and the "Entex 9" dive of 1983 (610m)

I believe Duke University did 686m in 1981.

However the "work output" by the divers was minimal I believe. No surprise there as that is usually the case at even 10m....haha

A few of the guys I work with have done working dives at 300m. They tell me that it is like breathing "soup" and there isn`t much energy for any practical work.

Last year a chamber dive with 8 divers was conducted to see the feasabillity of carrying out a job in Norway at 360m and I think the storage was 280m.

If I remember right 1 had trouble going down and 3 had trouble coming up!!!

Some colleagues have just completed a job at 250m. I am told it wasn`t very nice!!!

So gas is out.

Now I don`t know too much about breathing liquid but it is definately denser than gas and I know of rumours/stories of rats and a Frenchman that has tried it (and supposedly died)

but I do know the lungs don`t take to kindly to liquid after birth.

I`m gonna sit in the "not possible" camp a while longer till I get better info

Great dream though and maybe one day

[naiad]

Cool thread!

Not planning on trying liquid breathing any time soon, but still interesting!

[kmo]

"but I do know the lungs don`t take to kindly to liquid after birth."

Just to throw in a weird/sick-in-the-mind one:
What if a baby was never given air to breathe, only liquid or the ATP solution mentioned earlier?
Obviously not ethical, but purely in hypothetical terms.

[omega3]

Scary...Dr Frankenstein.
I think the first question there would be about gaseous exchange in the lungs with an O2 saturated low viscousity liquid given that the intercostal/diaphragm muscles would not be well developed and assisted breathing is a step too far already at the end of the moral gangplank.

The question would be....could enough O2 be supplied to sustain life, given those factors and understanding that no liquid exchange takes place in the foetus` lungs for the supply of O2 and I guess is there as a lubricant/residue of the environment. Hmmmmmmm ?????he asks himself ,scratching chin.

.......it only gets worse from there with the implications!!!

Now looking at the flip side and a very distant scifi future. A resounding success and eventually a community of sea dwellers who have lost the abillity to speak and communicate with whistles/clicks etc. as writing SHARK!!! behind you!!!! on a slate has proved inefective as an early warning system. Would they have neat rebreather/wetsuit systems to go visit Gt. Auntie Moreau.

Dream on...might make a great film though!!!!

[naiad]

Now there's an idea... if I could become acclimatised to liquid breathing, it would solve quite a few problems! I would have the ultimate excuse for not doing things like using public transport, going to cold and unreliable sports centres, office work, etc. I would also not be feeling ill as I am now, with a perpetual chest infection caused by the above things, mostly the overcrowded public transport. I could say "Today I'm not going to work/bus travel/train travel/gym/pool, because I live in a huge tank of liquid, and getting out would mean getting used to breathing air again, which is too much hassle, so I'm staying put!" I wouldn't be able to talk, but I could write it on a slate.

I've been on the quest for the ultimate excuse for years, and I've found it! Freedom at last!

I guess this is what happens when I'm stuck indoors with no diving.

Lucia

[jimdoe2you]

Dear "Soon to be the new Deeperblue.net Queen",

I dunno??? ....................in that big tank you'd still have to breathe your own pee pee !!!!

I don't think that's freedom. This thread should focus less on breathing liquid like a fish, and more on the evolution needed to our own internal organs to become more whale like (sperm whale can dive 1000M for over an hour).

[naiad]

I hadn't thought of that.

Becoming more like a whale would have the same effect i.e. not having to do the above things, so I might go with that option.

Even more difficult though...

The first step of the whale transformation is to eat more, to gain insulating blubber. Bring on the food...

[omega3]

What are you suggesting....genetic modification???? great idea!!! I`m all for it. I see many westerners trying to emulate the whale in size, Its a start I suppose. Although the Sperm whale may be able to hold its breath for over an hour at depths of 1000m ...or more........It can`t drive to the local supermarket for a six pack and a frozen pizza and then go lounge around and watch day time tv........silly..... just what do they do down there?????? hunt squid????......pffff ...yaah right. How boring is that if its not for pleasure??

[jimdoe2you]

We're not fat, ....................we just have a lot of everything here, especially food and we are, .....errr, .......big boned and stout .

Also, you need to respect your elders, since I was born on July 23, 1969, you should bow down to me, ...............plus I out weigh you by 150 kilos.

[omega3]

Lol....ageist!!

Anyway ..... I COULD DIVE THE TITANIC. Just give me the financial backing and I will prove it.

NB. level of financial backing will be directly related to level of proof of dive.

[naiad]

Ok I'm up for the challenge.

Give me...
A 1000m rope
Underwater contact lenses
A suit which doesn't compress
A depth gauge which is accurate and water resistant to 1000m
5l of Liquivent

And I'll post the story here!