Bayonet Attachment for euro guns

[Griff]

Hi Spearos,

Has anyone got some good ideas on attaching a bayonet type of spike to the front of an eurogun?

It seems like a good idea considering how vunerable you are from shooting the fish to after you have had a chance to reload.

Thanks

Mark

[icarus pacific]

say what???


sven

[Griff]

come on, dont you know its a war out there?

[icarus pacific]

Thanks but no thanks.
There's enough blood and idiocy out there already. Most injuries are self induced/inflicted anyways, and having a friggin spike on your gun is an accident waiting to happen. Same with bangsticks- you end up looking for something to nuke...


sven

[Griff]

You already have a spike on the end of your gun, only is called a spear. so i dont see how it will add to the already high danger that is located at the bussiness end of the gun.

[w3ac]

You're talking about a small spike right? Not some World War II bayonet that's 12 inches of solid steel. I can see your point as you deal with those damn White sharks. Where I am, most sharks require a charge and they back off. Well maybe not the tigers and Oceanic white tips but most.

Brad

[andrsn]

Griff,

I had contemplated putting an old tip from a bent shaft on one of my wood guns, but converted to euro for most of my hunting. I think the attatchment of a spike to the end of a euro would be kinda difficult. Also, don't forget about how much the weight's going to effect the balance of the gun since it's so light to begin with.

However, if you do come up w/ a reasonable solution (ie. lighter material, or way of fastening something), let us know.

And Sven.... come keys kraze, you'll know why I've always wanted one. Just put a riffe speartip cover on it and it's idiot proof. Pulling off the cover is much faster than putting on a powerhead.... AND this is even reusable. I think it's a good idea. Plus, sharks tend to react to sharp objects better than bumps w/ your fists.

Humbly,
Anderson

[icarus pacific]

Originally posted by andrsn


I had contemplated putting an old tip from a bent shaft on my wood, but converted. I think the attatchment of a spike to the end would be kinda difficult. Also, don't forget about how it's so light to begin with.



And Sven.... I've always wanted one w/ your fists.

Humbly,
Anderson

No kidding humbly!


sven

[Skindiver]

Hi Griff.

I have seen it done. A chap was munched on the knee by a Raggie on the surface at Aliwal last year.
He then braized a stringer spike to a circular clamp which clamped to the barrel behind the muzzle. The tip has a normal chunk of 20mm rubber keeping it out of business until needed.

I suspect the gun was not a rail gun as the clamp would have interfered with the rail. Your could machine off the last inch of rail if you wanted to accommodate the clamp. ( similar to a reel clamp.)

It worked i believe.

Skin.

[Griff]

talk about everthing you say will be taken out of context and used against you! and now there are legions of leprechauns helping "da cause".

Anderson, i was thinking of using aluminim, but a short spike, so that it only projects about 1 or 2 inches. over that short length the aluminuim should still be strong enough and hopefully light enough. if its still too heavy, a cork or HD polystyrene speartip cover may help keep it neutral, but i dont want to cock up the trackability too much.
about fixing it, thats my big problem. I have seen a raingun with a reel attachment and they (the dive factory) screwed a plate onto the barrel, so when i get a chance, 'im going to head over there and ask them about seals etc.
I was thinking of placing it on the side where the mono is pulled over the rubber, so you just have to make sure you load it with the line down the right side.

Skin, the clamp is probably the best idea, but machining the rail . still, i may have to go that route. do you have any idea if it still floated with a stringer shaft? an you said that it worked? what did it work on?

we had hasstles with a raggie as well at 1/4mile. it had decided that we just werent welcome on his reef. my budy had just shot a pickhandle barracuda. he saw the shark when it was three meters away, just after stringing his fish, and ended up trying to push it off with the gun muzzle, while the spear hung three metres below him. by the time the shark was comming back for the third try, i had swum over and stuck it in the head. still, it took another three returns and three jabs, before it pushed off.
it gave the scoobies something to think about because "they just love raggies, they're so mellow".

cheers
mark

[SAFishShooter]

Hi

I can see that it would be very useful.
What about those clamps that they use to with hosepipes.
It is a aliminium one that you can put around the barrel. I think it would work better if you used 2. It is the kind that you turn with a scredriver to get it tighter. I'll stop by my hardware shop today and find out what you call it in good English.

I think I'll stop by the dive shop and get meself another stringer spike to make the mods to my gun. Had a few scares this last month.

Bad Shark. Let me puncture you.

Cheers Reinier

[Griff]

Shot Shooter
I have heard of them being reffered to as hose clamps and jubilee (sp?) clamps. Are you sure they are aluminium? I've used some for out of water work and they have rusted.

Also, care to share a bit about your scares?

Cheers
Mark

[SAFishShooter]

Hi

I went diving at Koelbay about 2 weeks ago for Crayfish. The water was quite clear and flat. I was diving alone (I Know, I know. Bad me). I was in about 4 m deep water and about 40 m in when I looked down and saw a bronze shark underneath me. It was about 2,5m long. It was swimming very slowly underneath me. I usually put my knife in my goody bag because I'm scared of losing it. The bag had a few crays in it and I was looking for it while keeping an eye on the shark. It felt if my heart was jumping out of chest. Then it turned around. Swimming underneath me in circles. And I still couldn't find my knife. There is a big rock in the water around 50 m in so I decided to head for that. Feels wierd to be swimming deeper into the water with a shark underneath you. The shark followed me all the way to the rock. I got out of the water and sat on the rock for about 10 minutes. I took out my knife and then keeping an eye open swam to the shore.

I don't know if it would have come for me but it still was scary.

I also had a run in with a Vaalhaai ( I think they call it a Nurse shark ?) Went spearing at Melkbos. Had a few nice fish on the stringer and I had my brother diving with me. I just shot a fish when my brother called me and showed me the shark. We got back to the beach in a jiffy.

Cheers Reinier

[SAFishShooter]

Hi

Griff I found out about the hose clamps.
You do get them in aluminium but they are a bit more expensive than the normal ones. You just have to ask for them.

Cheers Reinier

[Dogmatrix]

Griff i think the way to go would be to use a chisel point bayonet these do now have sharp or serated edges the sharp point is on the end they are primarily used for stabbing and not cutting... that way they wouldn't damage your rubbers or bridles. on the sides of the bayonet there are drain like groves that allow for easy withdrawl also.. perhaps this is the way to go. best of luck!
Rob