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Never fire a gun out of water

Just had this brought to my attention by my friend Dietmar from medfish

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Re: Never fire a gun out of water

I can't watch vidoes at work.
But I know for a fact that firing of a pneumatic gun out of water would destroy it sooner or later.
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Re: Never fire a gun out of water

Now that is a story to be told I nearly died laughing the first time I read it
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Re: Never fire a gun out of water

The problem is the elastic return of the line: without the drag given by the density of water, there's enough energy to make the shaft bounce back against you. On a lucky day you will survive. On an unlucky day, the shaft might hit you in the head and you're dead. That would entitle you for a nomination at the Infamous Darwin Awards.
...Who, me? When I learned this lesson it was a lucky day!
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Re: Never fire a gun out of water

Indeed a lucky day, for us too
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Re: Never fire a gun out of water

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I already told you the story
here it is again!
I was swimming in a river when I discovered that RP-2 pneumatic gun would not load because some sand got into it. So I decided to pass that gun to the pal, former fighter pilot, who was fishing on shore. I told him the gun broke down and warned him sternly to put it back into my bag and not try to touch it. What did the guy do? Well, he was drnking and he was bored - so he decided to repair it - the first thing he did was try to fire it unloaded - and the he screamed to me - the gun is working so I swam back to find that the plastic part of the cylinder piping (bucket?) rammed through the conical muzzle because of that. I gave him hell and told him he had almost ruined the gun which now needs serious repairs and pleaded to put it back into the bag. But then he screamed again - it turned out he decided to continue repairs - so he started to unscrew the muzzle and it fired into the river because of the remaining air pressure.
But even that was not the end of the story! I speared a few roachfish with the spear of that gun and passed it on to him asking him to throw them up the bank so they would not jump back into water. When I swam back - there was no fish nor the pal. It turned out that he placed the fish right on the bank and it jumped back into water so he called it a day and fled before I found out.
I also had the same gun fired off accidentally out of the water - I was putting line on the line holder/releaser and it is designed in such a defective way that it is connected to the trigger so that if pulled - it pulls the trigger and fires the shaft -
it happened to me but lickily the shaft hit a stone outside the water, before the line stretched and bounced back
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Re: Never fire a gun out of water

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I already told you the story
here it is again!
I was swimming in a river when I discovered that RP-2 pneumatic gun would not load because some sand got into it. So I decided to pass that gun to the pal, former fighter pilot, who was fishing on shore. I told him the gun broke down and warned him sternly to put it back into my bag and not try to touch it. What did the guy do? Well, he was drnking and he was bored - so he decided to repair it - the first thing he did was try to fire it unloaded - and the he screamed to me - the gun is working so I swam back to find that the plastic part of the cylinder piping (bucket?) rammed through the conical muzzle because of that. I gave him hell and told him he had almost ruined the gun which now needs serious repairs and pleaded to put it back into the bag. But then he screamed again - it turned out he decided to continue repairs - so he started to unscrew the muzzle and it fired into the river because of the remaining air pressure.
But even that was not the end of the story! I speared a few roachfish with the spear of that gun and passed it on to him asking him to throw them up the bank so they would not jump back into water. When I swam back - there was no fish nor the pal. It turned out that he placed the fish right on the bank and it jumped back into water so he called it a day and fled before I found out.
I also had the same gun fired off accidentally out of the water - I was putting line on the line holder/releaser and it is designed in such a defective way that it is connected to the trigger so that if pulled - it pulls the trigger and fires the shaft -
it happened to me but lickily the shaft hit a stone outside the water, before the line stretched and bounced back
...As I said in another thread spear alone don't bring a buddy with you ...
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Re: Never fire a gun out of water

I fired dry a few days ago... line (1mm mono) snapped straight away.
Its shocking just how much more power there is out of the water. I fired a second time without line as I had used up all my good karma and even with my wimpy 16mm rubber loaded to the first notch I shot my spear about 15 metres!... and lost it under the snow and grass for an hour.
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Re: Never fire a gun out of water

Or rather as Covert says "never approach a bull from the font, a horse from behind or an idiot from any side!". My advise: get smarter friends!

I've fired my gun plenty of times out of water, it's actually quite fun. Although you have to have rocks for brains if you leave the line attached! That's just stupid!
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Re: Never fire a gun out of water

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...As I said in another thread spear alone don't bring a buddy with you ...
I thought I said this, while most said one has to dive with a buddy.
In another incident, my buddy fired his gun accidentally 2 seconds after I left the spot where the shaft was aimed at - I went to church and lit a candle after that.
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Re: Never fire a gun out of water

Hyep,

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