do use the same amount of weight?

[Marwan]

hi just woderig if u use the same amount of weighs when spearfishing same as freediving? or do you use a bit more for spearfishing?

[island_sands]

Originally Posted by Marwan

hi just woderig if u use the same amount of weighs when spearfishing same as freediving? or do you use a bit more for spearfishing?

hi marwan, got nothing to add, but a "HI" as we haven't spoken for ages

[Marwan]

that's very true sarah, hey yourself, had fun in dahab?
im coming to dubai next month (end of july), i guess i like the cold damn work !

[island_sands]

july!!!

Well the water at the moment is 38degC thereabouts, it was 48 deg in teh parking lot yesterday but i tell you what, a nice breeze down on the beach and loads of jelly fish at the mo' - its all good though!

i took some snorkelling pics past Abu Dhabi the other day (was too shallow to freedive) will post them for you to see

[poacher]

Weights used for spearing vary depending on the depth but would generally be more than that used for Freediving as you would not normally try to spear at the same depths as your maximum freedives - it would not be safe as shooting and landing fish uses more energy and oxygen than just swimming up and down with no extra resistance.
If I am spearing in shallow water or collecting lobsters I will wear a fair bit more lead so as to be almost neutral or even slightly heavy in the depth I will be diving so as I can stay at the bottom quietly and wait for fish or pull out the crays without having to kick to stay down as this scares the fish.
If you are diving in varying depths you can compromise a bit on weights but don't weight so much as to be too heavy in maximum depths is better to be slightly bouyant at half of your maximum depth.
You can carry a weight on your float or boat to add in shallow areas and remove for deeper dives.
Peter

[jimqpublic]

I have a followup question. Right now my weight belt is 16 pounds and that's the most I feel safe with (as a beginner). Unfortunately that puts me neutral somewhere below 20 feet and tonight I'm diving in 10-15 feet.

I was considering instead of adding more weight maybe diving with less than full lungs. Does anyone control their bouyancy this way or should I just add weight?

Jim

[podge]

Originally Posted by jimqpublic

I have a followup question. Right now my weight belt is 16 pounds and that's the most I feel safe with (as a beginner). Unfortunately that puts me neutral somewhere below 20 feet and tonight I'm diving in 10-15 feet.

I was considering instead of adding more weight maybe diving with less than full lungs. Does anyone control their bouyancy this way or should I just add weight?

Jim

In my very limited experience I would say go with what you feel comfortable with as I have found that confidence is very important.
As for only half a lung full of air would that not half your bottom time?

[jimqpublic]

Not according to such notables as Eric Fatteh. I don't understand the science but he does "passive exhale" dives to far deeper and longer than I expect to ever do.

Your tissues and blood already hold a lot of oxygen. With half a lung full I would guess your time will be cut by 1/4. Right now my bottom time is limited by my mind and bouyancy more than actual O2 depletion.

Just a thought. I may add a pound tonight and see how that goes.

[Marwan]

added 1 kilo to my usual freediving weights and felt much more comfortable doing so, i was positive at the surface and for a few meters deep, i was neutral at about 7 m so did not exert much effort going to 12 meters or going back up. i also notice in most of the spearfishing pics divers seem to have a lot of weight on the belt contrary to freedivers

[poacher]

From my limited understaning of it exhale diving can be a good thing but needs the time spent learning new tecniques don't expect to just do it first try look into it properly and develop skill slowly and properly.
Adding another weight is easy as with any changes don't push it on your first few dives with new amount of weight and have a float if possible or a boat or swim bak and drop the weight on shore or in a place you can pick it up later if its too heavy. in 10 to 15 feet you still want to be able to rest on the surface without have to work to stay up but be able to stay on the bottom without struggling.
Peter

[jimqpublic]

Yeah. What you said. My brand new 5 mm Oceanos suit is just incredibly bouyant. I'm 5'10" (1.77m) and 175 pounds(80kg). Last night I went up to 18 pounds (8.2kg) and was still positive at the bottom- 15 feet(5m). Half-lung diving let me stay down but my body told me to surface quickly. Next time I'll try two more pounds.

Jim