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there's that, and the spicy conch salad at Max's (his name is Gary) too. Ask him to tell you some shark stories AFTER a dive..
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November 17th, 2008
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(I'm not talking to Fondueset here, as I hate him and I am not speaking to him!
 )I can't wait to read the reports from the upcoming trip. Maybe I'll get to see this fin in person next year!
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November 17th, 2008
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Great photos, Chris. Your personal photog rocks - nice and surreal colours!
Yes, I am one of the lucky few who will try out the Looney. There will be much Tomlunonery at the Blue Hole. I'm going to be the first to attempt a breach with moose antlers strapped to my head. Breaching will be all about streamlining, no matter what the propulsion. The person with the ability to flick themselves out of the water with a torso rippling with snake-like muscles will win. I would really like to see a top-ranked finswimmer give breaching a go - just to see if they can do it or how close they are. We'll also be testing the DOLfin - a high-aspect ratio device with a lot of potential for open water swimming, recreational freediving and year-round use. Videos and photos to come. Pete
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November 18th, 2008
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Great work Fondueset, thanks very much for your detailed reports on this project!
Letīs phantasize, if it works great, everybody wants it, so maybe theyīll start mass production, which will lower the cost, so everybody can afford it, even me, yeah, thatīd be great ;-)
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November 18th, 2008
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by the sounds of it, it's not that great for surface swimming which is something they emphasise on their blog as being good for. also on the site it has a section on "Hydrotouring" which is all about long distance surface swimming. sounds like some of their marketing claims are being called out already...
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November 18th, 2008
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You can find DolFin (togehter with some others) here: APNEA.cz - Collection of Weird Fins
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November 18th, 2008
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Nope. I don't think it's on your list - unless there's a second page I didn't see. Don't worry it will be soon. 
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November 18th, 2008
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Long time! Still subsurfing? This design has been in the working prototype stage for many years now and I'm going to consult with the inventor before I release many more details. It has popped up already on the net here and there. The initial goal was not high performance but rather surface swimming, underwater use on scuba and freediving, and efficiency. That being said there are ways in which it could be modified for high performance and likely it would work under AIDA rules. I don't think that breaching would be its strong point, though. But you never know. Give me a chance and I'll have info up soon. There's no website - the inventor will only produce it for sale if it is something people find useful, interesting, fun, etc... So that's why I'm bringing it to the Bahamas for longer term testing. I plan to swim several km per day with it and use it for rec freediving. It works nicely with FRC so far since it has very little mass. I know you're going to be curious now! Just give me a sec.... Pete
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November 18th, 2008
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@Noa...
Marketing claims? Where do we say surface swimming? The lunocet is not designed for surface swimming. It is designed primarily for breaching... hydrotouring involves dynamic where you actually go somewhere and see something... it's a by-product of the efficiency and comfort we've arrived at on the way to a breaching tool.
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November 18th, 2008
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 Yes, I hope to add it there soon!
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Hi Pete,
good to hear from you mate. yes still subsurfing ! maybe going to Maui again this winter as new things are about to happen with it. i'll keep you posted if you're interested. i actually relaunched the subsurfing thread a few weeks ago to see if there was any interest here but there was not much. everyone is too excited about wanting to breach now. i should tell them i've been breaching for years and do it in every good sub session. my breach takes a wave to perform, but that actually makes it even more dynamic in feeling. have you been subsurfing at all ? still interested in it ? would very much like to hear about this fin when you get a chance. i'm planning some long distance island crossings in Greece and am looking for the right tool for the job. speak soon mate... Quote:
we have not had the opportunity to speak yet but i have been in contact with Nico until recently. i have been featured twice in your blog (regarding subsurfing aka underwater bodysurfing and the cycling shoe idea). anyway, i appologise for the sound of my last post and would much prefer to speak on a more positive note with you. having worked in development and testing in a few watersports, i'm always quite sceptical of new products until they have been well tested and proven. my comment came after reading the post explaining that it was not very efficient for surface swimming. i'm not sure i understood well what you mean by hydrotouring in your above post. from reading your blog and site where you mention this activity frequently, i had concluded that the Lunocet was also good for surface swimming (what you call hydrotouring). you describe it as "offshore backpacking" and say it involves "reef cruizing" or "island circumnavigating" which is all done in surface swimming for medium or long distances. i'm very keen to get this right and see what i have understood wrong. on a different subject, it sounds like the Lunocet would be very good for one of my primary activities, subsurfing ! hope to hear from you soon. delphic regards till then... Last edited by noa; November 19th, 2008 at 13:40.
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November 19th, 2008
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Its windy here, and cool. They lost my luggage and I stole this computer from a beautiful french girl.
Just to say - my testing of the lunocet up north was intentionally doing not what it's designed for - breaching was out of line in 43 F water. It exceeded my expectations in horizontal swimming - which is really exciting. I think it will work for surface swimming - that is it will be fast - but requires a technique more like a traditional butterfly. Again - I think Ted has made it clear he built it for Breaching . My first blush impression is that it may me quite good as an across-the-board recreational fin as well.
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November 19th, 2008
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Hi Noa...
I was wondering if that was the same Noa... No problem... I am actually very receptive of critique, it's the fuel of evolution. One thing I'd like to make clear... I've been dreaming of the breach since I was a kid... I will do everything I can to see a human breach completely out of the water. I have been building lunocets for seven years and narrowing in on the solution for gear and technique. I have broken so many footplates, I've lost count, studied the way dolphins, orcas, and whales breach, sat for hours at the aquarium watching tuna swim by... I'm obsessed! There's a purity about my obsession though... I just want to experience the perfect breach... as do you. I'm not the only one, but even if I was, and there was no market for my lunocet, I would have still spent the hundreds of thousands of dollars developing the perfect lunocet. From the pond behind my shop to the some 10 trailing edge and carbon fiber molds of failed designs, to the buckets of missed mark machined parts... I've got a lot invested in this obsession... and I had to make that money first before I could spend it... hence the bike components business. After my three little girls, and my beautiful wife... breaching is my life. Anyone who can relate to this is a friend. I used to wonder, if dolphin's brains are larger than ours, and if they are so intelligent, why do they live so simply without regard to science and technology... maybe it's because their families are always with them and they can breach.
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November 19th, 2008
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Quick obsessive flash - stole it again - beautiful middle-eastern girl this time.
The Lunocet has several virtues with regard to sub-surfing - which I did some of on my way in Sunday. - Sturdy - a big plus when you get thrashed - relatively close to the feet and easy to manage (won't yank you around much in a curl - or be as likely to catch the wave and pass you) - blade changes direction quickly (both maneuver and stroke) and tends to maintain hydrodynamic alignment in a passive state - very good acceleration. More as I find beautiful girls to steal computer time from PS - Ted - The lunocet is with me - taped to the inside of my thigh at all times which, as you may imagine, has been difficult at times. It is useless for brushing one's teeth however and, while it does not smell, is not suitable as a change of clothes. PSS - Add Will Trubridge to the list of those who'll be trying it out. Last edited by Fondueset; November 19th, 2008 at 15:11.
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