New to seac-sub asso: tips please

[GreekDiver]

Once you get used to it, loading an airgun is super easy and quick even at high pressure. I can load mine super quick at high pressure. It fires like a bazooka. The hardest trick to learn is aiming with it for long shots. It takes practice to understand how to shoot the gun. I recommend using a metal loader so the plastic loader doesn't stick.



left side aluminum loader (prevents sticking to spear)
right side-plastic loader (for good grip)


place spear in between middle and index finger. Some people prefer to just grip the rope loop but i think you get more power gripping the plastic loader.

I got a pocket stitched to my wetsuit for keeping the loader

Pneumatics don't need that much maintenance. Bandguns actually require more maintenance than pneumatics. You change bands more often than you change orings. Orings are super cheap too.

People often cant load airguns because they dont have the technique down. Technique is key. Strength will come with loading the gun over and over. Loading the gun isn't painful at all. You just put the handle on your foot and pull down. There isn't any pain anywhere.

here is a video on loading

http://www.team5150.com/~harry/spear...el%20Mamba.avi

hope this helps

[Coral Sniper]

I am thinking about getting a pneumatic in the 110 size .Is the mamba slower to reload then a normal pneumatic?Do mamba kits work on cyranos? And is the overall length of a 110cm pneumatic 110cm ,or is it just the barrel that is 110?just want to clear this up thanks.

[dave]

Mamba kits work very well on Cyranos. The mamba kit is no slower to reload once you get used to it.
Gas guns are measured differently to band guns. A 110 gas gun is 110c, long overall. It is about the same size (butt to speartip) when loaded as a 90cm rubber gun
cheers
dave
Spearguns by Spearo uk ltd finest supplier of speargun, monofins, speargun and freediving equipment

[azapa]

Originally Posted by spaghetti

Happy ending. Just be sure that the oil lost was just a little. Oil matters.

The oil lost was enough to wet my hand completely, without it dripping of. I hope you see what i mean. I'll ges it was about 0.5 to 1CC??? How much oil should be in there from new? What kind of oil is it, it looked very clear, like mineral oil, and seemed quite thin. I may try to buy some here (Chile) and top up. Thanks again.

[spearheads]

I'm defiantly going for a pneumatic i have watched some mamba spearing vids the power looks amazing.
I'm going for a Maorisub from spearo Dave or the seac sub asso with a mamba kit. But im comfused were do you buy shafts that will work with a maba kit. and how does a pnematic gun work.
Thanks greek diver very helpfull.

[Coral Sniper]

Thanks Dave ! I think I will get a mamba kit for a cyrano. How much is a mamba kit,its kind of hard to find the price for one.

[GreekDiver]

Originally Posted by Coral Sniper

Thanks Dave ! I think I will get a mamba kit for a cyrano. How much is a mamba kit,its kind of hard to find the price for one.

I would pick up a dentex reel from dave too. The reel is awesome. The plastic pieces float so it wont throw off the balance of the gun. Dave ships fast too.

[foxfish]

Spearheads dont worry about how they work just order a 90 from Dave. The 90 will be best for you, easy to load & easy to maneuver. The gun comes with a spear of your choice (get a 6.5) but dave sells spare spears anyhow.

[ethann]

I know this is an old post and all but I was just wondering if you could tell me how the seac-sub asso 65 works.

I brought one for cheap today, and all it has is the gun and spear shaft.
How do you get air in it?
It's really hard to push the shaft in.
What do I do? Would be greatly appreciated for replys.

[Mongrel454]

Gday mate welcome to DB

Firstly u need a loader like one that is posted 5-6 posts ago.
Once u have that it should be relatively easy to place the butt of the gun on your foot and pull down the spear into place.
When the guns are new they come with a hand pump which u screw into the butt end of the gun(there is usually a yellow cap which u need to unscrew first).

If you got your gun 2nd hand id recommend going to your local dive shop and ask them to release pressure and pump it up again so u know how much pressure is in it(for peace of mind). They use a compressor so it only takes 30seconds.

There are alot of pple here with greatly more knowledge than me, but i hope this helps

Jamie

P.S. what part of OZ u from?...im from perth

[ethann]

I need to get a loader.
Is there a place I could get one?
Do you reckon just from the Local Dive shop?

Do you reckon if I took it in they would be able to help me get everything needed to get me on track?

And I'm from Newcastle, Nsw =)

Whats the spearing like over Perth?

[Mongrel454]

Im new to the sport so i aint been too many places but unfortunately its pretty dismal so far, unless you are going for buff bream and drummers. But the diving side is awesome as i love exploring new places

Im pretty sure most dive shops will carry a loader as air guns are pretty common now, also they SHOULD be able to get you on track

[petar_dj]

Hi!

I own a sporasub stealth 70, and when pressurized to 27 bar it is not hard to load. I load it from the hip and really have to stretch in order to reach the loader, despite being 194 cm tall.

speaking of shock absorbers in the earlier posts. have any of you tried to make a new one at home or do you get it replaced by ˝professionals˝?

[cousy]

Originally Posted by azapa

Hi, just bought my first new gun in 20 years! Seac-sub asso 65. I have some really dumb questions, and the manual is terrible:
1. It is 65 Cm long. It is hard to load on land! Too short for the foot method, Too long for the weight belt or hip method. any tips to load in water?
2. What is the bolt for?? It seems to work in any position. I *think* that its the power reducer, Dummies question I know...
3. The supplied line seems very short. What would you replace it with and what length.
4. Where/how do you guys carry the plastic loader whilst in the water?

I will be hunting in 2 to 8 meters of water with mostly rock bottom, good vis, against 2 to 6Kg rock fish.

Thanks!

1. Try crossing your legs in a figure 4 pattern, then place the butt of gun on the back of your calf muscle behind your knee. I use this method with my 70 cm gun.

2. You are right, the bolt is a power selector. If it set to low it will be a little easier to load if the gun was last fired on the high setting; if the gun was fired on low it will be much easier to load the next time. Never store your gun on the low setting, it's bad on the seals; always discharge the gun in the water on the high setting at the end of the day.

3. I use 3 wraps (6 barrel lengths) of Dacron or Dyneema on my shorter guns; 850 cm of less and 2 wraps on my longer 980 and 1100 cm guns. It seems that the shorter guns are more efficient than the longer one and they have no problem handling that much line.

4. I like to use a bungee or a loop of surgical rubber tied to the loader. When I am not actively loading the gun I slide the loader up my arm past my elbow out of the way.

[foxfish]

Hi cousy, welcome to db.
You seem knolagable on air guns, do you use the mamba system at all?