The DeeperBlue.net Gun Building Extravaganza - Gun Options 5 - Track Options

[sunfish]

I suppose a recessed track rules out the possibility of ever adding an extra band-though two bands don't really work on a 90cm gun anyway.
Think I'll listen to a bit more discussion before voting. At the moment I'd go for recessed though.

[blaiz]

Originally Posted by sunfish

I suppose a recessed track rules out the possibility of ever adding an extra band-though two bands don't really work on a 90cm gun anyway.
Think I'll listen to a bit more discussion before voting. At the moment I'd go for recessed though.

Im in the same boat. I was thinking the same thing about the second band but I guess we already voted for the single band 90.

[blaiz]

Originally Posted by ILDiver

If I had a copy of AutoCAD still, or a 3D modeling program....that would be the way to go...

I think with the dimensions we we started with, 50mm x 50mm, that is not wide at all for trying to notch out. Then trying to make it oval, makes it even tougher. How tall is a normal wood gun? I'm used to a Cayman that has an inner diameter of 25mm and it is plenty stiff. I don't know what thickness the wood has to be.

Maybe a half oval for the bottom and a flat top, with enough recess to make the bands 1/2 or 2/3 recessed?


*****Added 2 more rough ideas. The grid is 5mm squares.*****
*****Recesses may not be deep nor wide enough, but this*****
*****Should give you an idea of where I'm coming from *****

I really like the idea but with a flat platform like that on top wouldnt that make it really hard to move up? I know I only speak for myself but most my hunting is done lying "aspeto" (sp?) on the bottom. tracking fish usually happens laterally and upwards if you fallow.

As far as the thickness, my riffe euro is a 110 and the stock is ~80mm wide and only ~22mm thick. I am able to load either 3-9/16(14mm) or stock which was 2 16mm bands. and Im pretty sure 2 18mm bands will work on it as well.

In short I think 50mm as a thickness is ample to play with.

[ILDiver]

Well, the OMER HF is almost 50mm wide. I would have to measure it though. I added another rough sketch. The top sides could be rounded over to help. It would also still move a little easier than the 80mm wide Riffe mentioned above. As I look at it closer, I kinda like it. It also goes to Pastor's original idea in the pre-poll thread. Crap, we need another idea, we can't live with Pastor having been right all along!

[blaiz]

Originally Posted by ILDiver

Well, the OMER HF is almost 50mm wide. I would have to measure it though. I added another rough sketch. The top sides could be rounded over to help. It would also still move a little easier than the 80mm wide Riffe mentioned above. As I look at it closer, I kinda like it. It also goes to Pastor's original idea in the pre-poll thread. Crap, we need another idea, we can't live with Pastor having been right all along!

OK, Im convinced, your third drawing did it for me. Im voting recessed track, that is almost as appealing as the trucker girl profiles on the back of the mack-truck mud flaps!

[ILDiver]

The poll is done, but moving the handle forward 4" would have helped manuverability too.

[blaiz]

Originally Posted by ILDiver

The poll is done, but moving the handle forward 4" would have helped manuverability too.

Nah... rear handle all the way baby! Its only a 90! You will be thanking me when that big ol 30lb carp swims 4" out of range of what would have been a forward handle!

[ILDiver]

But I have a 90cm. This would be different. Also, you get the power of a 90cm, but in less vis, it's not scaring the fish before you see it. And the manuvering ease... That debate is done though.

How about another shape idea so Pastor does not get his way....again. He always gets HIS way! I hate it! I'm sick of it! *runs off crying*

[blaiz]

Originally Posted by ILDiver

But I have a 90cm. This would be different. Also, you get the power of a 90cm, but in less vis, it's not scaring the fish before you see it. And the manuvering ease... That debate is done though.

yes it is, and to the victor go the spoils, atleast i hope.

I dont really see too many more options as far as shape. I think you summed it up nicely.

Although if we can afford it i think a thinner stock would be best. I know we need to keep some bulk for the cut out but maybe that opens up the option of the conventional stock. W/out the cut out for the recessed bands we can afford to take some bulk out of the stocks thickness. Could also be a case of 6 one way half a dozen another.

[ILDiver]

Well, if it was a 22mm thick oval (not recessed)....Two guns could be made.

[foxfish]

Guys, the present lamination can be added to, the stock can have further wood glued on if necessary.

[Newbie_spearo]

I've got a copy of 3D studio Max but haven't used it in years, I could if some one was interested mail it out for them to play with and do all the necessary mucking around trying to figure it all out but I doubt it's something a simple piece of graph paper and a pencil couldn't fix. I voted for recessed track and if you're wondering about band vibration on a small euro gun, I have a 1m Rob Allen Caranx so 20mm band and there is a decent amount of vibration from it so I doubt it would be much different on this gun.

[ILDiver]

My 90cm can get some strong vibrations if I'm trying to swing it fast. I would hope this design would make it cleaner moving through the water side to side.

[podge]

Well it’s recessed for me, and for no other reason than I like the look of it and it’s different from what I’ve got at present.

[spaghetti]

Originally Posted by podge

Well it’s recessed for me, and for no other reason than I like the look of it and it’s different from what I’ve got at present.

and recessed for me too just because it's winning the poll (I want to be with the winning at least once, after my preferences lost on all the other polls! )

I also think it will reduce drag, vibrations, oscillations (I've had too much of "...ations" when I was a teen ager ).