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Re: Deepest freedivers of the world

I keep waving my mono under his nose but he won't be coaxed to the dark side.... keeps mumbling something about "infernal technology" and "back in my day..."
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Re: Deepest freedivers of the world

Kike Curavic = 88m with mono
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Re: Deepest freedivers of the world

Sebastien Murat = 105m with mono
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Re: Deepest freedivers of the world

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Sebastien Murat = 105m with mono
Are you sure about that? Whene i did his course i asked him about that and the depth he told me was far from 105m... maybe i missunderstod he does not seem to like to talk about numbers...
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Re: Deepest freedivers of the world

I'm sure the 65m+ divers with bi-fins list would be a lot bigger if there were more people still training with them, most people don't bother. I forgot my monofin one training day and dived 67m with plastic scuba fins but wasn't a big achievement as I was already doing that without fins. Monofins definitely provide an advantage but I don't think a 65m bi-fin dive is equivalent to a 80m monofin dive. That's more like the difference between no-fins vs fins.

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Re: Deepest freedivers of the world

WR with no fins = 82m official (86m unofficial)
WR with bifins = 93m
WR with mono = 111m
ratio = 1.193
Using this ratio, an 80m CW mono dive would be a 67m CW bifin dive...

If you use Pelizzari's apparent pb's, 84m bifins vs. 98m mono = 1.167
Mandy, 88m mono vs. 67m bifins = 1.313
Martin, 108m mono vs. 93m bifins = 1.161
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Re: Deepest freedivers of the world

I don't think comparing the 93m constant world record from 4 years ago to the current one is a good way to compare relative performance of a monofin vs bi-fins. Divers are constantly improving thus the older record the worse the performance. Ideally you would want to compare the same diver at the same the level of progression. The closest I could come up with is Martin's previous world records of 93m in 2003 with bi-fins & 103m in 2004 with a monofin. Considering he had 16 months of progression between the two the difference is even less.

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Re: Deepest freedivers of the world

Tom Sietas 70m from 2004. Bifins?
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Re: Deepest freedivers of the world

Two years ago I heard from Umberto that he already went over 100 meters, if I remember correctly 105 with monofin. And there was still room for improvement, or so he said...
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Re: Deepest freedivers of the world

Hi Jorg,
Umberto's PB with a monofin is 98m, but with no specific training, so he is definitely capable of 100+
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"with no specific training" i love it
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Re: Deepest freedivers of the world

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Umberto's PB with a monofin is 98m, but with no specific training, so he is definitely capable of 100+
Being that Umberto doesn't pack, and based on "The Manual of Freediving," I'm assuming he dives on full-inhale, how does he equalize? Does he use a mouthfill or some other technique that he also teaches at Apnea Academy (excuse my ignorance )?

I just find it interesting that the prevalent solution I see for deep divers is packing with mouthfill...what is Umberto doing to go 100m?
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Mark Harris also did 67m in training for Egypt. I think he was the deepest bi finner in the event.
Not bad for an old guy that can't stick to one finning style
The 'old guy' would be happy if he could stick to one finning style, but his legs are cumulatively 92 years old now. And they're only good for about 20 metres each....I should probably be taking up competitive sudoku instead.
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Being that Umberto doesn't pack, and based on "The Manual of Freediving," I'm assuming he dives on full-inhale, how does he equalize? Does he use a mouthfill or some other technique that he also teaches at Apnea Academy (excuse my ignorance )?

I just find it interesting that the prevalent solution I see for deep divers is packing with mouthfill...what is Umberto doing to go 100m?
It is possible to air equalize to 110m+ even on FRC (lung volume < 5L), so it should be a piece of cake to equalize to 110m+ on a full inhale (8L).
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Re: Deepest freedivers of the world

Umberto has next to a very large lung volume enormous control over his diapragme , which he uses to push the air up into his mouth and ears.
This is very difficult and requires lots and lots of training to do this without tensing up. An alternative way to get the air in your mouth at depth is the technique William Trubridge is using . He is not pushing air up but sucking air up (sort of negative packs).
There are always more then one way to do the same thing. Mostly based on physiological differences, posibilities and experience
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