Deepest freedivers of the world

[jome]

I might be wrong, but as much as I understand physiology, you cannot use the diaphragm to push air. Muscles only contract one way and when the diaphragm does, it pulls the lungs down, causing inhalation. Exhalation is done via different muscles and the tension/elasticity of the lungs and tissues pulling them back (passive exhalation). Forced exhale is again done using different muscles (abdominals etc)? The importance of the diaphragm in deep diving remains the same though, it must be elastic and flexible to allow the lungs curl up higher and smaller, allowing you to go deeper before you "run out".

Someone correct me if I'm wrong

[glennv]

Sounds plausible. Have to check some medical books on that to be certain, but it is definately true that sometimes when you think you use certain muscles in fact it might work completely different.

[AltSaint]

Anyone trying negative packs might want to do that with caution. The couple of occasions I tried, the end result was a lung or throat squeeze and blood in my sputum.

[glennv]

Like with all these thing , packing and negative packing are advanced techniques and should be treated as such , with care , proper training and very very gradual buildup.

[wolleneugebauer]

My friend Jonas Krahn did 67m in our cold and dark lake with his plastic gara3000.
And he did 60m with this fins in his first competition after 1,5 years training only! (nice 2005)
His personal best in dynamic (with this fins) is 175m.

And dont forget -> his personal best in static is less than 6 minutes only!

[Goran Colak]

Originally Posted by efattah

Kike Curavic = 88m with mono

Hello, sorry for jumping in like this with my first post; but can you just tell me where and when exatcly Kike made that dive?

I tkink we all know what Kike is dooing, and that is not diving and compete.

Just to be clear, Croatian CWT record is 75m and it's made by Zeljko Vedris.

[laminar]

Hi Goran,

I believe it was during a training session with Kirk Krack. But Eric will know.

Of course, it was unofficial.

[Billextreme]

I'm not sure about the 88m... but Kike did 87m with Kirk.

Last summer Kike did 6 dives to 80+ in our training. (inside of 10 days)

regards
/B

ps, My pb with bi-fins is 68m...
(the last training dive before ibiza wc comp 2001)

[Goran Colak]

Tanx for clearing that up, I tooth we are talking about competitive dives!
I do not wanna go into debate about Kike, but if stories about his training results are thrue
then he is propably the most nervus man at the planet when competition starts...
The gap between his training results and real stuff is just to big!

[Billextreme]

Dear Goran,

Some people like competing, some don't. Kike don't need competitions to prove he can go deep. I don't think there is sooo many divers coming up from 80+ and start whistle the national hymn after three seconds, like he can.

...by the way Goran, how deep have you been in a competition?

/B

[Goran Colak]

Dear Bill,

My coment about nervus man was more pointed to the pool results, like STA and DYN, latest gaf was Maribor, countless more before that. There is manny divers going deep, long... But there is a big diference in practise and competition results. One can't see Sietas for eq gooing around and saying he's DNF is 221m and STA 10:8min... But like I sad before I do not wanna go in Kike Curavic debate, realy do not wanna go there, this ends here.

I wish him all the best, but I will spend no more word's on him.

[TRITON]

Goran, I really don't see a problem here.The name of this thread is "Deepest freedivers of the world", so if Kike did 88m in training he IS among the deepest freedivers in the world.
Many results that we can see here had been done UNOFFICIALLY just like Kike's 88m CW.

Originally Posted by Goran Colak

Dear Bill,

My coment about nervus man was more pointed to the pool results, like STA and DYN, latest gaf was Maribor, countless more before that. There is manny divers going deep, long... But there is a big diference in practise and competition results. One can't see Sietas for eq gooing around and saying he's DNF is 221m and STA 10:8min... But like I sad before I do not wanna go in Kike Curavic debate, realy do not wanna go there, this ends here.

I wish him all the best, but I will spend no more word's on him.

[Goran Colak]

There is no problem.

[TRITON]

OK........

Originally Posted by Goran Colak

There is no problem, like I sad:

Tanx for clearing that up, I tooth we are talking about conpetitive dives!

The thing you are quoting has nothing with his 88m dive.

[cebaztian]

UPDATE

Ratio between mono and bifins dives about 1.2

Freediver that have been past 65 with bifins. (31)
(training and competition, according to the rule "of the day")

Pipin Fereras
Jaques Mayol
Umberto Pelizzari
Brett le Master
Martin Stepanek
Alexandro Ravelo
Michel Olivia
Manolis Gyiankos
Herbert Nitsch
Michael Pradon
Tanya Streeter
Pierre Frolla
Carrera
Battaglia
Patrick Musimu
Stephane Mifsud
HerbertKirk Krack
Trevor Hutton
Mandy Cruickshank
Deborah Andollo
Tom Lightfoot
Frederic Buyle
Eric Charrier
Wolfram Neugebauer
Stavros Kastrinakis
Panos Lianos
Giorgos Giorgas
Mark Harris
Tom Sietas
Jonas Krahn

Freedivers that has passed 80 meters with fins (32).
(training and competition, according to the rule "of the day")

Umberto Pelizzari
Brett Le Master
Eric Fattah
Herbert Nitsch
Martin Stepanek
Guilaume Nery
Carlos Coste
Alun George
Bevan Dewar
Ryuzo Shinomiya
Will Winram
Natalja Molchanova
Alejandro Ravelo
Gianluca Genoni
Patrick Musimu
Manolis Gyankos
Johan Dahlström
Mandy Cruickshank
Sebastien Murat
Ant Williams
Dave Mullins
Walter Steyn
Timo Kinnunen
Peter Pedersen
Timo Jattu
Juraj Karpis
Alexey Molchanova
Kazuaki
Nao Yuki
Thomas Grindewold
"William Trubridge" (CNF)
Giacomo de mola
Krisijan Curavic


PS. 5 of these 62 performances are done by women