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August 18th, 2006
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The pool has finally re-opened and am getting in my first workouts of the year.
 Using Pelizzaris book ref. page 348 table A. As an example the term "10X50m with 1' rests" confuses me. My understanding is that I'm supposed to do 10 laps totaling 500m. This can't be right for a beginner even with fins.  This is probably wrong but that's how I interpreted it.
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August 18th, 2006
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You have to adjust the times and distances to your skill level. Pelizzari's example does mean 10 sets of 50 meters with one minute rest between each set. That example would be pretty stressful for most people, and call for a good spotter.
Connor
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August 18th, 2006
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August 27th, 2006
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It basically takes me around 17 minutes to complete, always use a spotter, no matter how easy it seems, if you cant end the 50m, just finish what you can, the same with the sets.
It just keep you in shape when you are not really training, 2-3 times a week.
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August 28th, 2006
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September 2nd, 2006
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I would suggest instead of measuring the resting time to measure the whole interval. I do 2 x 25m (50m total) on 90 second intervals (I start every 90 seconds) and its nice as I just gaze up at the clock and leave at the right time. For a beginner I would take more time, maybe 2 minutes or even 3 minutes. It's nice to use the interval as sometimes when I am tired I swim more slowly and its easier even though I have a shorter rest period and when I am feeling better I swim faster which is harder even though the rest period is longer. Then as it gets easier for you you can reduce the time a bit to guage your progress like going from 3 miutes to 2 minutes 45 seconds for the interval. Cheers Wes
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September 18th, 2006
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Hi, complete newbie here. Are these distances you guys are talking about with or without fins? I'm currently using normal scuba fins and starting training dynamic with fins. I'll usually do 50m with comfortable breaks in between which basically is whatever time it takes for my heart rate to return back to normal... maybe 2-5 mins. But I can't always do 50m and so most laps I finnsih short. Was wondering if that's ok.
Also, what kicks are most efficient? I find the dolphin kick a bit taxing after my 6th lap or so... 
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September 18th, 2006
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September 18th, 2006
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Hi Adelene,
Sure, thats ok. When you are just starting, anything you do will help you improve. As you get better (50 meters is good, by the way) you will learn a lot on this forum and be able to apply it to what you are doing. In this thread, I think everybody is talking dynamic with fins(DWF), but there are lots of divers who do no fins,DNF. Connor
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#12
September 19th, 2006
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I don't have any spotter when I train so I keep it in known limits for me.
Earlier this summer i was doing 50M every 3 minutes- including swim and rest time together. I could, easily, keep this up for an hour. If I'd had more time I would have done it longer. I really felt like this improved my diving. I did it with my shorter rubber hockey fins on. In the past I have done 50M every 2 minutes when wearing my monofin- much faster swim for me. I would only keep this up for 8-10 sets but it worked. Another drill I did was 50M repeats on a descending breath up scale. there would be 2:30 minute rest between the first two sets, but I would work my way down to just a :45 rest between the last two sets. This was almost like a C02 table, but with swimming. When I have been out of it for a while, like the whole past month for me, i will start with 25M drills because these seem to be pretty easy for me and get me back into the work out mode without fear of burning out my motivation. One last work out routine i stole from Hayden Welch who had it printed in Freediver magazine few years ago. It went something like this: 25M's every 45 seconds- 8 times 25m"s every minute- 8 times 50M's every 2minutes- 8 times Swim hard for 20 minutes in fins- or monofin This could be done in a lot less than an hour and you felt like you hit a little bit of everything when doing it. I have extended the surface swimming to round the work out up to somewhere between 60 and 90 minutes- depending upon how much time I actually have. I do the surface stuff with a front mounted snorkel and switch back and forth between dolphin kick and arm pulls- to try and work everything. This is the plan i will try and get myself back into in the next week- or so.  Jon
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#13
September 19th, 2006
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Thanks guys!
Jon, that sounds like good training. I might follow that for a bit. How often should you go for your maximum distant attempts? Ordered my Pelizzari book from Amazon but it's taking donkey ears to get to Singapore.
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September 19th, 2006
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I don't go for maximum distant attempts because I have no one to spot me. I try to keep everything well within my comfort zone for safety.
Jon
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#15
September 19th, 2006
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Once you can do 10 x 50m comfortably and consistently, should you push for more distance? Or train to do more with shorter rest periods? I'm hoping to increase my DYF distance gradually.
My pool is 50m....I'll have to learn that dreaded turn. Last time i tried, I was about as graceful as a seacow.
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