Increasing DWF beyond 50m

[ADELENELYNCH]

Hi,

Can anyone recommend a training schedule for increasing dynamic distanc beyond 50m pls? I train multiples x 50 but not sure if that helps with increasing dynamic distance?

I'm also not wearing any weights but I only feel slightly buoyant when doing DNF. With fins, the momentum keeps me underwater so I seem fine without weights. Should i still get weights though?

Thanks!

Cheers,
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[perow1]

If you are able to do multiples of 50 you are probably able to add a turn at 50 and go on. If you have a good training buddy to spot you, just try it. Start with a turn. You have to venture inte the unknown sometimes to se if you can.

Or is there something else that stopps you? Do you get a samba after each 50m? I would guess that it is not so. Take some time next training and focus on putting in a turn at 50m.

I think the best training schedule is a mix of maximal performance and repetitions.

[ADELENELYNCH]

I dont really have a spotting buddy so I dont push my limits so far. No, I dont get samba each 50m. I always wriggle my fingers just to make sure. Some laps, the 50m quite comfortable so I'd like to push a bit further. What stops me? The wall, i guess. :P

Here's what I thot to do. Does it make sense?

10 x 50m : at a comfortable timing, so no stress... say every 3-4 mins.
then rest 5 min, go for a max dist.
rest 5 min, go for another max
2 x 50 m : every 4 mins.
Max dist.

[perow1]

Themain thing about a safety buddy is to have someone to spot you the day you have something going on in your body that makes you black out on a usually easy distance. BUT!

The good thing with having a buddy is not only that you will do it safe, but you will also dare to challange what you previously thought was your limit, and that is probably way longer than you can imagine if you have not tried it before.

Your training looks good to me, every swim with your fin will condition your body/mind/technique. What i do not understand is when you wite max... Isn´t 50m your max at this point? I would say that it is a good schedule as a base, but doingit with variation will not only make it interesting it will also train different aspects of the dive. Just "pumping" 50m all the time will train one thing, but sometimes you will forget about technique just to make it to 50..
....and so on.

Go get a buddy and inform him/her about what you are doing and the risks. Make your buddy swim along with you when it gets hard and just go for it.

[GirlOfWater]

Hey,
It sounds to me that you're making one mistake in your training program, and that is making a the 50m a psycological barrier by swimming the same discance over and over again. You will get very used to at what point it is time to surface, simply according to the length of the pool instead of listening to your body. And just as perow said, one day you might get a problem on a distance that's normaly okey, maybe on 40m. If you're not used to listen to your body's signals AND don't have a buddy, it will be a big problem!

I'm one of those without a buddy too, so I have to train 90% of my time alone, which means basically technic training... It is good to do repetitions so that you get comfortable with a distance, for instance 50m, but I also do shorter sprints or shorter lengths focusing on my head position or something. Normal swimming with restrictions of breathing (one breath every 5,7 or 9 stroke) also helps alot.

Do NOT do max attempt alone, it's as simple as that. When you get somebody to watch you, focus on your body, your legs, your mind, and challenge yourself. You will definatly make that turn!

Good luck on your training

Elisabeth

[ADELENELYNCH]

Thanks Perow 1 and Girlofwater!

I sometimes have a swim buddy but he's doing his own swimming training most of the time alongside with me, so not sure how aware he is of me all the time. Hence I always swim within comfortable limits of not more than 50m. I'll listen to my body and when I have to come up short of 50m, i do.

Yeah, it does get a bit boring just doing 50m. I want to add some variation to my training to keep it interesting. So your ideas help.

Perow1, when I write max, i mean trying to make a turn and go beyond 50m.

Thanks for highlighting a very important point (besides having a buddy) ie. listening to your body. I'm just beginning to find a pace that's most relaxed and how to get my body to relax every part while swimmign. It feels almost like being half-asleep but doing an automatic movement. It's quite hypnotic. Not sure if that's the way it's suppose to feel?

[ADELENELYNCH]

One more question : what stroke do you find the most efficient for you?