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Re: Why not a French speaking freediving section ?

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Your speaking Spanish is great ; we might contribute to opening this forum to the Latin world...

Carlos Coste is Spanish-speaking, as far as I know...

Umberto Pelizzari is Italian and French speaking (and writing)...

Spain is a great country for freediving (I dove in Begur on the Costa Brava and in the Lake of Banyoles)...
Begur is beautifull...! hey you should get in touch with Adrian, he lives on the costa brava and freedives regularly
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Re: Why not a French speaking freediving section ?

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Ok, Why not for this, but that's another idea, and who is going to translate?
It does sound verry complicated to me
hey Remi.. completely off the topic but congrats on your 100th post
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Re: Why not a French speaking freediving section ?

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Begur is beautifull...! hey you should get in touch with Adrian, he lives on the costa brava and freedives regularly
In Begur there is a wonderful 20 m hole (agujero) which allows you yo have nice freedives right from the beach...
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I speak Hebrew (that has no relation to other european languages) and English
As far as I know, your country fosters linguistic diversity...

As far as I know, there are vast amounts of people in your country who don't speak English

I saw last week a movie about the Falashas (the black Jews from Ethiopia supposed to descent from King Solomon and the Queen of Shebah...) ; it described the operation "Moses" organized by the CIA and the Mossad in 1984 to transfer these Falashas from Ethiopia to Israel...

The three languages I could hear in this movie were :

1. Amharic (Ethiopian language) ;
2. Hebrew ;
3. French !

The Israeli family who adopted the young Falasha hero of the movie was French speaking...

I did not hear one word in English...

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Re: Why not a French speaking freediving section ?

Interesting.
But what are you trying to say?

EDIT: Weren't they supposed to be the descendants of King Solomon?
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Re: Why not a French speaking freediving section ?

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Interesting.
But what are you trying to say?
I am just saying that it is naive to pretend that English is THE universal language in the world...

English is widespread among all Germanic countries (Anglo Saxon countries, Germany, Netherlands, Scandinavian countries, Austria, Switzerland,..) which is quite delimited... but English if of little use in Eastern countries for instance where German and Russian prevail...

English is also widespread among certain professions (computers, aeronautics,...) but not in all like chemistry (German) or nuclear and spatial science (Russian)...

Coming back to Deeper Blue, limiting exclusively the languages used to English restricts the audience to certain geographic areas and professional backgrounds...

In particular I am not convinced that the professional freediving community worldwide masters English...
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Re: Why not a French speaking freediving section ?

in the Netherlands in school we are taught in 4 languages for at least 1 year, 3 languages for 2 years and 2 languages for 4 years (moslty even during complete education, minimum of 10 years).....the choice is on the student.

In general I think a lot of people have a fear of writing/talking in foreign language.....I know my English/German/French is bad but I won't limit myself in not communication with others, but I can understand if they won't.

This has nothing to do with thinking English is the WORLD-language.....just looking at majority of World population, Chinese is the language number 1.....if looking at countries speaking the same language; we all should speak Spanish on this forum.

The foundation of this website is English, other are foundated in Spanish, French, Japanese, Greek, Portugese, German, Dutch, and loads more of languages.................

The gost in my machine is gone and for this night will be my last post, or maybe not.........

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Re: Why not a French speaking freediving section ?

There's one thing i would say Subaqua... that YOUR english is better than mine!!

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I am just saying that it is naive to pretend that English is THE universal language in the world...

English is widespread among all Germanic countries (Anglo Saxon countries, Germany, Netherlands, Scandinavian countries, Austria, Switzerland,..) which is quite delimited... but English if of little use in Eastern countries for instance where German and Russian prevail...

English is also widespread among certain professions (computers, aeronautics,...) but not in all like chemistry (German) or nuclear and spatial science (Russian)...

Coming back to Deeper Blue, limiting exclusively the languages used to English restricts the audience to certain geographic areas and professional backgrounds...

In particular I am not convinced that the professional freediving community worldwide masters English...
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There's one thing i would say Subaqua... that YOUR english is better than mine!!
But you are a native speaker, aren't you ?
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I speak Hebrew (that has no relation to other european languages) and English
Some linguistic remarks about your native language and your country (far beyond the scope of freediving...)

First Hebrew has a connection with one official language of the European Union : Maltese. Maltese is a Semitic language and as such connected with Arabian and Hebrew.

As far as I know, the main communities constituting Israel are :

1. ASHKENAZIM ; "Ashkenaz" means Germany in Hebrew and the vernacular language of Ashkenazim is Yiddish, which is a Middle High German dialect ; Ashkenazim are then Teutonic locutors since they speak a language belonging to the family of Teutonic languages...

2. SEPHARDIM ; "Sepharad" means "Spain" in Hebrew and the vernacular language of Sephardim is "ladino", or "Jewish Spanish" , which is a Spanish dialect once spoken in the whole Mediterranean area...

3. RUSSIAN Jews recently coming in masses from the former Soviet Union, who made Russian the 3rd or 4th language spoken in Israël...

I can guess from your mastering of the English language that you must be an Ashkenaz, aren't you ? Then as such you belong to the family of Teutonic locutors...

A Sepharad would have pleaded for the use of a Latin language like French or Spanish...
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Re: Why not a French speaking freediving section ?

whats the deal with the "pure" shit? If you get a french section and see a post obviously related to spearing dont open it.

Do you hold your breath differently because you are a "pure" diver?
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Re: Why not a French speaking freediving section ?

Why donīt post a poll to find out how many like the idea of different language sub-forums?. I donīt like it (I speak Spanish) because the success of this forum is the world wide fashion of the discussion, the subforum will split the contributions...but thatīs just my opinion
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whats the deal with the "pure" shit? If you get a french section and see a post obviously related to spearing dont open it.

Do you hold your breath differently because you are a "pure" diver?
My proposal to create a French speaking section within the Freediving sub-forum is good and credible because it is FOCUSED.

I could appreciate Deeper Blue because I have a sufficient mastering of English which allowed me to read posts and to write some...

In particular I was so glad to receive in some hours answers to technical questions I asked about freediving coming from Australia, California, Finland,...

On the other hand I was surprised to see the extremely low number of my fellow citizens taking part in Deeper Blue and there is no comparable web site in french related to freediving...

Out of 5000 members I was able to identify no more than 3 other freediving compatriots on DB... There might be more French DB members "lurking" or "half lurking" (that is trying to read posts without clearly understanding them...)... Some of French freediving "lurkers" might have a reasonable understanding of English and would be able to post in English also, but refrain from doing so out of sheer linguistic shyness..

This linguistic barrier is something of a problem in particular on the occasion of
international freediving competitions taking place in France (for example last competition in Paris, where I played a role of linguistic interface)

What I propose to the webmasters of Deeper Blue is to "open a gate" to French speaking freedivers. Opening a French speaking section within the Freediving Sub-Forum would permit to some of my freediving fellow citizens to ask questions in French, which would be impossible in "normal" sections...

If I made this proposal this is because I feel that I can play an effective role of "linguistic" bridge between French speaking freedivers and the rest of the English speaking DB community.

I am no scuba diver and no spearhunter... I have not proposed what I cannot handle... But I do not forbid to a French speaking spearo to make an equivalent proposal regarding spear hunting...

Of course, there is a large common area between the "pure" freedivers and the spearhunters...

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