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Lycra vs nylon

Discussion in 'Wetsuits' started by qai4321, Feb 2, 2010.

  1. qai4321

    qai4321 New Member

    I was wondering what the differences were between these two materials on the outside of a wetsuit. Can anyone tell me which is more durable.:duh

    On that note, what are the advantages of super-stretch over metalite on the inside...

    Help please!
  2. DivingDane

    DivingDane 1BREATH Freediving

    Lycra outer will make your suit more flexible compared to Nylon provided the same neoprene is used in each suit.

    you will find that Nylon is more robust but saying that lycra on a suit is still very good.

    depends on what you are after.

    as for inner lining, metalite is a coating sprayed over the neoprene and makes the suit easier to put on than open cell, and is supposed to increase thermal retention but i doubt it. Super stretch inner makes putting a suit on VERY easy but is not as warm as metalite or open cell.

    if your in warm water then go super stretch if not go metalite.... super stretch makes for a more ronust suit as well. if warmth is important then go metalite or better yet Open cell neoprene.

    DD
  3. qai4321

    qai4321 New Member

    Nice...thanks!
  4. behslayer

    behslayer Member

    Lycra is a tradename of a fabric developed by Dupont. Lycra does have a component of Nylon to it. Companies may use Lycra or Nylon Spandex or another combination of the same fabrics which they tradename such as Ultraspan as an Outer Skin to a Neoprene.

    I will group Lycra and Ultraspan together since they are similar. These are considered High Stretch Outer Materials for single or double lined neoprene. In addition to being more flexible, ie Ultraspan has 24O% more flexibility than standard Nylon, Lycra and Ultraspan are also thicker and more durable as they are much thicker materials. If you look at a piece of Nylon that is used to laminate onto foam rubber to make Neoprene, it is see through. It's very thin, almost like a panty hose material, whereas Lycra or Ultraspan are opaque and could be worn as clothing. This being said there are many different kinds of Lycra/Ultraspan ie thickness or weight for example, 4oz. 6oz. 8oz. etc.. There are also many different kinds of Nylon and different material manufacturers Nylon will have different characteristics. For example, there is Nylon.. and then there is High Stretch Nylon which has 17O% the stretch of regular Nylon.. Wetsuits are complex.

    Open Cell vs. Metalite vs. "Super Stretch"
    Open Cell has almost unlimited stretch.. If there was no material on one side of the foam, and both were Open Cell, the material would stretch until it ripped. Open Cell is very comfy, warm, flexible, but requires water or lube to put on the suit.

    Metalite is supposed to make an open cell suit eaisly slide on.. but this skin, does restrict slightly the flexibility, is not as warm as open cell and has an annoying tendency to peel off over time.

    Super Stretch, or XTEND.. matches the flexibility of a High Stretch Outer Material ie @27O% the stretch of Nylon. It is thinner as it does not need to have the resistance to Barnacles etc.. as such it is actually more flexible than the outer skin. An XTEND/XTEND suit would be extremely flexible but not very resistant to abrasion.. good for example for Triatheletes..

    What would I get?

    Up to 2.5mm I would go with XTEND
    2.5mm -3.5mm I would go with any of the three
    5mm and up.. Open Cell.

    Hope that helps.
    Last edited: Feb 2, 2010
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  5. qai4321

    qai4321 New Member

    It does help. Thank you behslayer.

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