Spearing north wales

[debrovnik]

Whats' the Viz up on the Llyn like at the Moment???

[octopus]

20.08.2007. Môn - Anglesey N, S, W, no visibility. It'll take a week to clear.

[Davidocallaghan]

Originally Posted by octopus

Thanks. Yes, it is bass, but gutted and descaled so it lost its silvery looks.
The place is Rhosneigr.

HI Mate yes thats a salmon not a bass not a good thing to post a pic like that on deeper blue

[octopus]

Originally Posted by Davidocallaghan

HI Mate yes thats a salmon not a bass not a good thing to post a pic like that on deeper blue

I guess we do not share the same sense for humor if that is a joke...it is a bass.

[debrovnik]

I'll tell you what the viz is like up on the Llyn!!!!! Was up there on Saturday in the rain and mist!

Porth Oer: Visability: 5-7 feet
Fish seen: Small pollak, Small wrasse, 1 Small Bass

Porth Dinllaen: Visability: 2-7 feet (depending where you were)
Fish seen: NOTHING (Does a seal count?)

Porth Ysgaden: Visability: 1-2 feet
Fish seen: Didn't even bother to get in the water!

Basically, shite.

I've been snorkeling tens of time around these areas and they've been crystal clear, the first time I go spearfishing, it was like swimming in milk, seriously!!!!

Anyway, my first attempt at spearfishing was a disaster but I am undetered! I'll get back there when I can and have another go!

Just to add, while I was in the sea at Porth Dinllaen, some theiving bastard stole my money out of my bag

I hid my bag behind some rocks at the Life Boat station, it had some food & drink in it with a waterproof box containing my car keys and money - I was looking forward to making good use of the pub on the beach!!!!!! Anyway, I came back to find the bag open with the keys (thank God!) still there in the box, but the money gone!

I don't really care out the money, (although it was a small wad of notes) I'm more surprised that someone would do that. Porth Dinllaen is pretty out of the way and it was pouring with rain and misty, the only people we saw were a few intrepid walkers who were all really friendly. It just didn't seem the place where someone would do that sort of thing! It's not exactly the kind of place where chavs will be lurking around!!!

I'm also really surprised someone found it! It was bloody well hidden!!!!

Anyway, enough whining! Just everyone keep your stuff safe! You don't know who's around!

[octopus]

Visibility back to ~4m, fishable.

[Yeti]

Originally Posted by octopus

Visibility back to ~4m, fishable.

smug git!!

Originally Posted by Davidocallaghan

HI Mate yes thats a salmon not a bass not a good thing to post a pic like that on deeper blue

?!?

Originally Posted by octopus

20.08.2007. Môn - Anglesey N, S, W, 0.2m visibility. It'll take a week to clear.

there you go fixed it for ya!!!! convoys of surfers is never a good sign!!

[azapa]

do you get flatties in NW? I have caught them there on rod and line many years ago? must be spearable??

[Yeti]

Originally Posted by azapa

do you get flatties in NW? I have caught them there on rod and line many years ago? must be spearable??

yup! sure do. Sandy beaches just beyond the surf! I've never had the good fortune to see a good size one but they are there apparently. Probably all over but bit needle in a hay stacky on a featureless sandy bottom.

[Doc]

Well my lad was racing dinghies at pwhelli last weekend so i took my gear and had a dip. Vis was variable from 3-6m but got into a cloud od monster mullett and bass which just kept coming back to see me. got 8 good bass and one mega mullett then spotted a few scallops so got a few to toss into the mullet stir fry i had planned.
Feeling pretty happy I got to the beach as a pair of dolphins arrived to corral the shoal into the shallows and gorged themselfs. fantastic.
then the wheel came off the trailer on the way home boo hoo

[Pastor]

Went in this morning briefly, vis was about 0.5m at best. Did about 10 drops before I lost all motivation. Cac!

[Pastor]

Originally Posted by Pastor

So there I am in about 3 ft of water on my way back and all of a sudden there is this Mullet in front of me swimming to the right. This was a humongous fish! Certainly as big as the width of the screen of of our 42" telly. It must have been over 15 lbs easy, I had my gun on it quickly and tracked it, they usually bolt but this one kept swimming past without a care in the world. Guess it knew I wasn't going to shoot it, some things are better off left where they are

Heds tells me that he saw what was probably the same fish a few hundred yards up the coast on Saturday afternoon. He too declined the shot I'm pleased to know it is still out there, there was some gill netting going on during the summer and I feared it might have been picked up by the poachers

[Pastor]

Couple of photos from yesterdays storm on some of the local fishing haunts

[tecdave]

Just seen this on a sea fishing forum.............

Saturday at Black Point on Anglesey's South East point was idyllic! That is if you disregard the bl**dy hordes of the Genghis Khan JetSki club, the Hell's Angels of the sea. Alright they just destroyed the subtle ambience of the occasion, drowning out the clanging of the lighthouse, the skirl of the gulls and the shouted cursing of amalgamated choirs of sightseers, fshermen and even, on this occasion, the photographers! The sound was full of boats mostly fishing (competition?), some intrepid eskimo kayackers looking for deaf seals, and a small regatta passing through and fro with the light breeze.

I was out about 80yds with peeler but my rod tip was frozen, save for the odd little pollack. My mackie rod was superflous and even the Bass Pluggers were resting ("We'll wait 'til it gets a little darker" - blue skies blazing down see!) Mind you there was this grey half inflated plastic bag bobbing about with a small bit of red ribbon splashing in it's wake. It described little bobbings somehow curiously slower than the flowing tide. I thought it was flotsam, half flooded plastic rubbish sack. Then as it neared the position of my bait a seal appeared next to it! Well I thought it was a seal, spherical, black and shiny? Then he turned and it was a diver encased in black wet suit with a short snorkel sniffing the air! The water's shallow just there so I thanked him for ruining my afternoon. He got the hint and moved out a little easily beyond my casting range (OK, Crazy gang, .. not that far out!!) He was perilously close to being run down by one of the boats running back up after a drift down and must have decided that perhaps it was safer on land.

He made landfall down-tide of me but near a couple of 'resting' pluggers and I saw they were in animated conversation. One moved over to me and the diver made of to his car. I then noticed the fish dangling from his belt and the spear gun jutting from underneath his arm.. The 'float' was carried on his shoulder. The angler told me that the diver was 'foreign' and that the fish were all Mullet. The diver said he'd followed and shot a shoal of them which now dangled from his belt. I took a picture from distance but you can see the haul of superb sport fish sacrificed in the name of hunting. I'm convinced that some of the fish were older than their stupid captor given the slow growth rate of these magnificent sport fish. Why hadn't he speared the small pollack I was catching before he turned up? Smaller target - more difficult target?

OK so my question is :
Do landing sizes and legislation governing catch and release of certain species extend to spear fishermen? I know that Mullet and Tope are likely to be spared the predation of Man but surely taking a shoal is ruinous for any species so close to the shore?

If i'd been able to make it towards him over the trecherous weed covered rocks at Black Point, then I would have asked him direct, and suggested that more sport would have been got by playing 'U-Boats and the Atlantic convoy Jetkis' (Just imagine them slowly sinking with spears stuck in their hulls!)

[foxfish]

Hmm that is not good publicity for us divers but the author has a valid point! (well written too) Anyone know who the foreign spearo is? Big mullet!